The fight over Darwin - Teaching evolution in schools

[appolose]

Khuutra said:

appolose said:

Khuutra said:

Okay hold up

Hold up

Let's say I take a breed of dog and from these dogs over hundreds of accelerated generations I breed them into animals the size of deer, which bear no outward resemblance to their ancestors and require very different kinds of nutrition in order to function.

Is that evolution?

Likely not (although the different nutritional needs may imply something more than just little outward resemblence).

I do think that, given your scenario, you can get an animal to have considerably different looking descendents.  What I do not think is that random mutation of a gene can produce every other genetic blueprint (bird-to-fish, for example).  In other words (perhaps less accurate ones), I believe there is a "limit" to what random mutation can do.

In what sense is there a limit?

As to the second.... How do you reject it? How can you, as a Christian, justify the rejection of the working knowledge of man? How can you hold to literal Young Earth Creationism?

The working knowledge of man has been wrong many times before, so there is nothing inherently wrong with that.  I hold to literal YEC because I hold to the Bible, and I hold to the Bible because of a philisophical conclusion I have come to.

Actually, I think we've discussed this topc before, haven't we?  If your still interested, you can find my reasoning in the huge debate I had with Finalfan in the "atheist debaptised" thread.