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ironman said:
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@Zenfolder

Ok, since we seem not to be caring about the money developers can make. You can pirate games on the PC for free. How can you beat that? When you rent and buy used games you still pay something, how do you beat free?

I hesitate to mention pirating as a positive for PC gaming, yet it probably is the reason a lot of people prefer it.

You mentioned used market. What's the difference between the two?

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THAT THE USED GAME MARKET IS EQUIVALENT TO PIRACY?

[edit:  oops, forgot to refresh -- everyone has already jumped on this.]

The end result is the same. THe developers get no money from you.

Edit: crap yoru edit came in too fast.

Oh, don't worry -- if you haven't slunk back into whatever corner spawned that terrible concept, I'll happily take you on. 

In the case of used/rental games, the developers got money from SOMEONE for every copy of the game that's out there.  In the case of piracy, they didn't. 

So say 10k people rent/circulate a game which someone paid for with 50 bucks. Definitely someone is getting the money and it's so much. How much does each person pay the developer? Thousandths of a cent?

Back on topic....

PCs are better for some game types, but as a whole, consoles offer a more uniform, cheaper, user friendly, comfortable gaming experiance. 

Consoles don't have the same degree of cheating as PCs do, it is much harder to truely manipulate your network without having to go through complex proceedures on a console. It is also much harder to mod your games or hardware to give you an unfair advantage.

Console controls are more user friendly, less buttons to keep track of, no getting destroyed by the guy with the $300.00 lazer precision, fully customizeable, extra precise, wireless mouse and keyboard set.  

Consoles are cheaper, no need to upgrade anything just so you can play the latest game, it's a one time purchase baby!

Nobody has an unfair advantage when it comes to graphics. You aren't going to get raped by the guy who has the $500.00 crossfired Graphics card running full bore, while you are running your pos $120 graphics card barely limping along.

Console win on almost every level....I really don't know why anybody is bothering to try and argue that.

 

True, there can be cheating on the PC. It just depends on what game you're playing and such. However, if you're a regular in a moderated server, then it's not all doom and gloom. I've even seen a video of somebody with an aimbot for the curveball flash game, lol.

I disagree here. I've been using a standard dell keyboard since 2003 (with the green PS/2 connector) and I used to use a standard mouse too and played well. The only improved input I have is a Logitech G5 mouse and that only cost $45.

Sure consoles can have a cheaper cost to get into them, but I still like to play games on PC as well. I play games on both and since my computer does more than just play games, I like to improve it from time to time. Screw this one or the other thing.

As far as graphics are concerned, it seems like people arguing for console are the bigger graphic whores . While PC gamers talk about playing games in higher resolution and such, it's not REQUIRED to enjoy your games and you can turn down settings if you have to. By the way (as somebody else pointed out) a ~$130 9800gtx+, Radeon 4850 and 4870 are good cards. SLI or Crossfire of those cards would still be cheaper than the $500 you're quoting and I recall finding the Radeon 4870 x2 on newegg for ~$300 (they're gone now, probably for the new 58xx series releasing shortly). You don't need a GTX 295 to play games.

While on the subject, I'm using a bottom of the barrel processor. While I do have it overclocked, it still has worked well enough for costing under $100. Paried with an 8800gt, games run well. Crysis in DX9 with very high settings enabled produces a playable game (even if it chokes a bit in certain areas) and the benchmark tool for Resident Evil 5 produced visuals that looked the same as the console version (at least it did from playing the demo) with a steady framerate of around 55 or so.