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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Smidlee said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
vlad321 said:
@Zenfolder

Ok, since we seem not to be caring about the money developers can make. You can pirate games on the PC for free. How can you beat that? When you rent and buy used games you still pay something, how do you beat free?

I hesitate to mention pirating as a positive for PC gaming, yet it probably is the reason a lot of people prefer it.

Well you can't have it both ways,  if rented and used console games is a plus to the console market then piracy may not be as big of a negative against PC as some let on. One of the things some developers like about Steam and Impluse is it does kind of hinder both renting and reselling PC games. Of course some gamers complained for the exact same reason.

What I said to the other guy.

Used games are bought and legal, and in some cases encouraged. They haven't caused near ruination to the gaming industry, and they ARE NOT stealing.

Pirating is theft, and implying that it isn't just to defend your failed PC gaming argument pisses me right off.

PIRACY IS NOT A POSITIVE FOR PC GAMING.

Get over yourself.

Yes selling used games are legal yet exactly what  can developers do to stop it? As one developer said they make absolutely nothing from used games thus in thier eyes they made as much from used games as pirated games.  At least a used copy of a game was bought once. This is why there is a heated debate about PC piracy and how much DRM really helps if at all.

 So buying a used copy of a game is a plus to both Gamestop and gamers but not necessary to the developers , the same with illegal piracy benefits the gamers and not the developer.