yo_john117 said:
vlad321 said:
dsister44 said:
vlad321 said:
yo_john117 said:
vlad321 said:
yo_john117 said:
You've obviously never played a FPS on a console before. So whats so skillfull about point and clicking?
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The fact that the target moves about 3 times faster, while you yourself also moves 3 times faster. What's so skillful about moving the reticule slowly over someone who is basically crawling across the screen?
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That only applies to Team Fortress (at least from what i've seen) And team fortress is on consoles too so that logic fails.
And having played Counter Strike and Halo 3 before, I can easily say they move about the same speed (I think counter strike is a little faster)
You saying stuff like this just backs up my point that you have never played a console FPS...
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Yes... Unreal Tournament, Quake, Half-Life. They are no games at all, obviously. Why don't you try playing some true shooters then making those claims. Also, as Scoobes pointed out, consoles even need auto aim, which is kinda pathetic, but I uess necessary.
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lol, all of those games made there ways to the Xbox through sequels. 
Can you please name some games whose sequels are not showing up on one or both of the HD twins?
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So you are saying I can directly blame the consoles for the fact the sequels of those game SUCK HORRIBLY. UT3? It ruined the UT franchise. Quake 4? Same. TF2? Is that even remotely playable on the consoles? Not a single sequel that has appeared on the consoles has been as good as their predecessors, they all suck. I blame consoles for ruining the quality of shooters. It's quite sad that in 2009 I have to play UT2004 and Half-Life 2 to get good multiplayer and singleplayer FPS experiences, don't you think?
Also I can't believe you can call Halo a good game. It's a piece of garbage. If in the future even our genetically modified selves walk slower than 90 year-olds then we are truly fucked.
Other game franchise that went dowhill after it went to consoles: Fallout. Play Fallout 2 then come back and tell me 3 is the bes thing to ever happen to gaming. It's good, it was just outdone 10 years earlier (minus graphics, yes).
You know what is THE saddest part about this? This concerns PCs as much as consoles. X-COM: UFO Defense, Deus Ex, and System Shock 2 STILL remain and are better than ALL games that have come out in the past 5 years, PC or console. Tha is VERY sad. Honestly, dont bash them until you play them. If you call them shit you have obviously neve touched them and just come out as an ignorant idiot, that or you just aren't into strategy, shooting, stealth, story, or any "hardcore" gaming.
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I'm sorry but whats truly sad is your post...
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vlad is right, alot of franchises and games were ruined because of making PC versions feel consolized. UT3 was a fiasco, though it is on the right track with their UT3 Black update. Meanwhile, TF2 did everything right, and is selling MILLIONS on PC.
Fallout 3 was much more lucky because PC has a huge Oblivion following, so they didn't mind the consolization of Fallout 3. Ofcourse, Fallout 3 is far below the level of it's predecessors.
