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PS3's getting slapped around in Japan, but the lead is just north of a million units. Far from insurmountable. They'd have a harder time climbing out of the 360 US hole than the Wii Japan hole. You're using shipped units, not sold units, so obviously your figures would not be a measure of userbase. I also gave sales numbers for GTA3 in North America to take into account that I was using only using North American hardware sales. Seriously, why would I count Japan with GTA? It's a moderate success at best. And European sales figures are too spotty to mess with. Oct-00 391,245 Nov-00 187,554 Dec-00 522,239 Jan-01 248,052 Feb-01 233,223 Mar-01 546,572 Apr-01 326,014 May-01 281,881 Jun-01 343,631 Jul-01 351,935 Aug-01 321,774 Sep-01 341,300 Total 4,095,420 Don't see how any of this was misleading, or made up, unlike yours (may not have been made up, but they're certainly misleading). In order to get some serious penetration, I'd put $200 as the figure as well. However, Sony should be able to hit 15-20 million prior to hitting that. During the 18 months that PS2 was at $300, they sold 9 million. I agree we haven't really seen any big announcements for Sony lately, outside their own internal work, but we haven't seen much from the others either.