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Kasz216 said:

On the bright side.  Iraq is shaping up nicely.

I was against going there... but since we did I'm glad we didn't pull out half way like people wanted.

Now Afghanistan.... who would of thought that war would be the bigger screw up.

Taliban, Warlords, the government.... all really aren't worth having lead it at this point what with them rigging elections....

and we can't do shit because to do so we'd need the combined support of India and Pakistan... which is like getting the combined support of Israel and Palestine.

Thats true. I'll give credit where credits due. Iraq is improving markedly now from what I've read and I do agree that if you have the audacity to start a war of "liberation" then you really must stay to the bitter end and rebuild the country. Although I wish the allied forces had taken a more Roman approach and altered existing systems instead of starting from scratch. But thats semantics.

Afganistan is very interesting because at least in Australia they stopped reporting about the war there soon after we invaded Iraq. I made the assumption back then that it was because the war wasn't going as well and the government was using Iraq to direct the publics attention elsewhere. Obviously thats speculation.

In regards to Pakistan, its also bad because a lot of insurgents and terrorists are trained there. Not to mention the fighting between the Pakistan government and the Taliban at the moment.
The middle east and areas close to it really are a mess.