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FaRmLaNd on 12 September 2009
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Kasz216 said:
FaRmLaNd said:

I've become more libertarian these past few years but still with a slight left leaning stance on many issues. Whereas I think a few years ago I was almost a fully fledged socialist in many regards.

That has nothing to do with the financial crisis though, its because I got sick and tired of ever increasing government power at the expense of personal freedom through the scapegoat of anti-terrorism (among other things).

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Yeah, i'm somewhat in the same boat in that regard.  All the shit Bush did was outright ridiculious... but then the democrats weren't doing anything to fix what he did even when they got congressional majority.

Made me very distrusting of both parties.

Of course it doesn't help that 9/11 wasn't really a big deal to me in the first place since i didn't know anyone who lived in NY.

A terrorist attack in NY is the same as one in London, Gaza, Dubai or Tehran to me.

A tragic loss of life.

And the Australian Liberal party (liberal thats a joke) were following Bush and Blairs lead. The problem is the Labor party is moving right and now is essentially the same as the liberals despite the supposed idealogocal differences they have.
Hence the (effectively) two party system in Australia might aswell be a one party system since they're both so similar now. Not to mention the liberal party is conservative and the labor party has abandoned its union based roots. What a mess.

None of the parties actually represent what they're named after anymore. The closest Australian party to my views is the Greens and they aren't close at all to my more libertarian views. And the actual Libertarian party is so small that it doesn't matter (not to mention I disagree with them on many key policies). Essentially I have no-one to vote for that actually represents even a lions share of my political views.

9/11 was a tragic loss of life, but the response to it was rediculous. Not only do we have two extremely expensive and innefective wars, the laws inacted to "combat" terrorism were/are making western countries look more tyrannical by the day.

Pro-tip if you want to fight an idealogical war you don't do what your enemy wants.