Tekken 6 on Wii?!

[johnlucas]

Kwaad said:

Wii sells 20 Million AT LEAST

First, arcade machines arent dead. Far from it actually.

Second. Dude, pass please and let me hit that. The Wii is roughly 2x more powerful than a Gamecube with is roughly 2/3rd the power of a x-box. That puts the Wii at about 25% more power than the original x-box. That puts the Wii at roughly a top of the line GeForce3. GeForce4. 50%. GeForce5. 25%. GeForce6. 12.5% GeForce 7. 6.75%

The Wii is roughly 1/20th the power of a PS3. not. 2/3rd.

Let's look at power consumption. PS3 consumes 217watts. Wii consumes under 17watts. The DVD drive, uses about 5 watts of that. That puts the Wii down to about 10watts of power, while the PS3 is still running around 200watts. That means the PS3 is drawing 20x more power for it's graphics. That also points to the 20x more power point. The 360 is basically the same too.

Dude, You are Crazy.

*Sleepy sound effect* Biggest mistake anybody can make is looking purely on specifications to see how powerful a system truly is. Gamecube was in some estimations equal or just under the XBox 1 and loads lighter and smaller than that onyx colored system.

I believe people make things work based on how the tools work together rather than just the singular isolated powers of each component. The truth of the matter is that you haven't really SEEN the full power of the Gamecube or XBox 1 because those systems weren't as successful as they were supposed to be. Their lives got cut short so we didn't get to see fully realized potential of the machine like it would have been for a marketleader where people squeeze every bit of potential out of the machine since it still sells.

I think that's going to be one big surprise with the Wii. An unexplained graphic monster that wasn't supposed to be possible but somehow is. Some developer is going to go inside the system and pull it up to higher optimization using the toolset it has and a lot of people will be surprised. For the artstyle that developer chooses needs a certain output and his/her company follows the Wii because it has the market. They will make it work.

Wii is NOT *so* much weaker than the PS3 & XBox 360 like it's a 6th gen level machine because it's not. I believe it's somewhere in the middle of the two and the simple fact of the matter is that most won't put the effort into the graphics because there's not as much need for that anymore (6th gen solved all reasonable graphical output issues) but a few WILL and that's where the surprise will come in.

Nintendo has played the lamb role the whole way with this project and I don't see why it won't continue that dark horse strategy even towards the power of their machine. Lamb is the Big Bad Wolf and slowly but surely everyone is realizing that. On paper the specs of the Gamecube paled in comparison to the XBox 1 but somehow those systems were virtually equal in graphical output. The whole answer is not ALWAYS on paper.

Here's a quote from some poster at Joystiq that sort of explains Nintendo's approach to the market:

96. Nintendo: "Hey guys, I'm just lovable old Nintendo, don't pay any attention to me! No way I'm in your house stealing your money and sleeping with your wife! I'm just a kids toy! la la la! [points gun at Microsoft's head] See, I'm just hanging out, playing kids games! Weeee! [Pulls triggger]. Woops! Did I just blow your f*cking head off, Microsoft! Wonder how that happened? Oh well! [Starts walking towards Sony]...

Posted at 12:17AM on Apr 20th 2007 by James

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/19/npd-march-belongs-to-ds-ps2/2

Took me awhile to figure out where I saw that quote but I had to put it up because it was funny...and true. People are going to continue to underestimate these guys until it is too late. In fact what I've said here won't convince you otherwise which just goes to show the strength of that strategy. How can ANYONE be scared of a system called "Wheeeeee!". It's pearly white and its packaging looks like Bleach bottles on the supermarket shelves. It's shaped rectangularly and white rectangles look like the flag or surrender. Wii give up?

When I heard them say they're not competing I knew it was on. Handhelds and consoles don't fully compete because they serve different gaming needs like cell phones and PC parlor games and non-video games like poker. This is why PSP doesn't hurt PS2. But consoles will ALWAYS compete against consoles because they fight for the same developers and games there's only so much to go around. What Nintendo means is that they are not focusing on competing because the other systems are not on its level. They went BEYOND competing. They are surrounding the competition. Blue Oceans are much bigger than Brown Earth. While MS & Sony fight on equal ground over anthills, Nintendo just goes about quietly capturing the mountains in the hubbub and by the time the 2 fighters notice Nintendo has all the land while they just have part ownership in that anthill.

Their focus is not on competing because they see themselves BEYOND the competition. But they are in essence competing by default because they are all going for the same parcels of earth. When Nintendo launched right besides PS3 they did that to create the disparity in perceptions between the two diminishing the worth of Sony's gains. People would have two systems to compare against one another and the further Wii passed the PS3 the worse PS3 looked. Wii will now use their passing of XBox 360 in record time to underline the positive perception of their machine. They compete as superiors not equals. That's the difference.

Letting you know now...it's not wise to underestimate the Wii. Everybody will all find out in due time.

John Lucas