HD-DVD or BluRay?

[Delusional]

Scruff7 said:
Blu ray is more expensive for the player, but the discs cost the same. and according to http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/ the average price of Blu-ray is cheaper.

Blu Ray Disks are larger. they can fit everything onto one disc, and larger discs are in development. this is an important aspect of Blu-ray, it doesn't matter what size disk you use, your player can play it. not the case on HDDVD where the majority can only take up to a certain size (therefore the consumer released movie disk size will be limited).

Disk size has caused problems already for HD DVD, even at the start of the Format War - HDDVD are already having to release movies+extras on multiple disks, and not enough information for High Definition can be incuded on one disc - for Transformers, they were limited in the quality of sound for the movie - not a really a problem unless you own top of the range audio equipment, but if it's a problem now, imagine what that will be like in 5 years time.... see link: http://www.n4g.com/News-74839.aspx

Finally, sales of discs. The PS3 may not be selling massively for the console industry, but it has MASSIVELY helped the format war. there are 5 million blu ray players out there, all those console gamers now buying blu-ray disks is causing a stir. blu ray sales already outstrip HDDVD sales: http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

First things first, overall most MSRPs for HD DVDs are cheaper except combo discs.  That's the reason usually you see HD DVDs more expensive.  Warner has released non-combo for a lot of their previously combo only movies so you can actually get a lot of them for under 20 bucks.

Second, I'd say extras on extra disc is alright since it also has web-enabled capability for ALL players to download additional features (gotta love the GPS tracker and additional information for Transformers).  I say it's better than "burned in picture in picture" on a second copy of the same movie on a single disc (Warner's Terminator 3), eg. non-profile 1.1.  I wouldn't like to keep switching between the two identical movies and start all over if I want to turn off the PiP.

Lastly, say for North America.  Yes, 2 million PS3s sold + standalones.  PS3 alone is 5:1 ratio with standalone HD DVD players, yet ratio is only 1.85:1 in terms of copies of movies sold.  Yes, it's not 2:1 anymore, it's 1.85:1 according to Nielson.  So yes, the PS3 has helped, but the momentum is shifting for HD DVD in terms of sales growth, both in software and hardware.