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hsrob said:
iBlah said:
.......you guys need to calm down.......how did this get into a flame war anyway.

@hsrob: From what I know the Chinese prefer pal skin in women since 3000 years ago, so it's "not" fair to say they aspire to "acquire Caucasian features", its just their own sense of beauty.
And not mean to be rude but I have seen plenty pictures of Chinese celebrities as I walk pass Chinatown almost everyday, and I can tell easily they are all Asians.

@9Chiba: take it easy dude, this is not going to end well if you keep calling other people dumbass.

I was going to mention this but i didn't think it was worth getting into but that is why i was careful to say "features more commonly seen in Caucasians".  They (Chinese) have this concept of ideal beauty which originates far before western contact, which from an outsiders perspective might look like, "wanting to look white", but may not actually be.  The problem is that in modern times the waters have become muddied by much wider exposure to western media.

I take your point about easily identifying Chinese celebrities on posters but with respect you are walking through Chinatown and have the benefit of context.  I didn't say Chinese stars are unidentifable as Chinese just that it's not always easy to tell. I guess my point is that the images and ideas i have in my mind that represent the admittedly rather nebulous idea of the 'average Chinese' gained through living in China are very hard to reconcile with the images portrayed in magazines and by stars in that country. Viewed that way though, perhaps it isn't any different from any other country.

So are they trying to look white? Maybe not, but it's certainly understandable that it could look that way from one perspective and the only way to truly know which it is would be to ask.  Anyway i don't think admiring features in another race or nationality is a bad thing.  I for one would like a little less Irish and a little more Dutch in me.........tallest people on earth.

True. Media has a greater hold on people than most of us thought, there are some much greater cultrual backgrounds in many things but are usually ignored by western media and replaced by their sense of political correctness BS. Though somehow I still find it hard to believe there are that many Caucasian like Chinese celebrities, it's understandable if there are a few of them as China has a very huge range of ethnical groups, some of them are quite literally more of Caucasians than Asians, but these celebrities I saw on all the posters and CD covers are undeniable Asians in every sense. I could call them Asian even if they have blond hair and snow white skins.

Anyway I remember seeing this one car model on TV during Shanghai motor show this year and she is by far teh most beautiful woman I've ever seen in my life, I'm quite suprised she hasn't been on the cover of every magazine printed in Chinese. I suppose thats when people from different cultures show their disjunctions in tastes. Something exotic to us is totally normal to them because they have been exposed to it since they are born, thats probably why we seem alway admire Latino features more than our own. (could you or your wife happen to know the name of one hot and\or famous Chinese model that made a presence during Shanghai motor show this year btw??)