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ManusJustus said:
Jackson50 said:
ManusJustus said:Feel free to show us how. 

We did not insult you, although we might have stated it differently had we known how sensitive you are. We simply noted how Slimebeast made your point about Jesus being a Muslim because Muslims believe He was look incorrect.  Simply believing someone is something does not make them so. If that is the case, then President Obama is a Muslim because certain segments of the US population believe he is a Muslim. Had you stated Muslims believe He was a Muslim, but all objective evidence indicates that He was a Jew...well, then I think most would have accepted your argument.

By claiming members of VGChartz hold grudges against you. Also, sending them insulting PMs accusing them of holding grudges. That is pretty damn embarrassing.

Jesus is an ancient religious figure, and its no suprise that there isn't hard evidence proving Judaism, Christianity, or Islam correct about their beliefs in Jesus.  Obviously, some of them are wrong, if not all of them, but thats not the point, the point is what do people think of Jesus.  And in a sense that is almost as important as what Jesus actually was, at least in regards to understanding the religion of others.

Your (and Kasz) analogy is incorrect.  You can look at his bank account to see that he is a billionaire, and we aks and observe Obama to see if he is a Muslim.  Such things can be proven, if we saw Obama praying in a mosque or Kasz in Forbes Magazine, we would have our answer.  The same can not be said for Jesus Christ.  Jews think he was a fraud, Christians think he was the son of God, and Muslims think he was a prophet, and nothing is going to change that.

I think you went on the wrong path here. While different religions claim he is one of them, just technically he was a Jew. If we can trust the bible here, even Pontius Pilatus (=the official representative of the Roman Empire in the province of Judah) saw him as one and even literally tagged this at the top of his cross.

While some Jewish traditions call him a fraud, he technically is still a Jew. Simply to the fact, that nobody questions, that his mother Mary was Jewish (Jewish mother => Jewish son).

There is no difference between Jews as a religion or Jews as a nation in that time, simply because they defined themselves about that fact. He might have been a christian or muslim or whatever by later definitions, but technically he was without a doubt a Jew.