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Just a side note: what I don't like about this contest of, "who can put out the best graphics" is this arbitrary notion that best graphics = photorealistic graphics. personally i'll take the graphics in mario kart over project gotham racing anyday not because project gotham racing doesn't look good but because I like the artistic style of mario kart better. There is more than one way to be beautiful and developers ought to figure that out instead of just going for the most detailed oriented art they can.