^I'm betting people value more what they get for their money, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, $200 is dirt cheap, but if that what's the end of it all, then the Arcade would be the top selling console right now, and it's not. So even those who haven't jumped into HD gaming consider things like FEATURES, after all if they're getting into gaming wouldn't they eventually want to get into this "online gaming thing" and download stuff and whatnot. A Do-nothing-of-those-things-for-$200 Arcade is not the answer for many of these people, when they factor in $50 extra every year and no HDD, which means even if they get free Silver X-Live they can't even download a freaking demo for free!