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TheRealMafoo said:
Rath said:
@TheRealMafoo.

Would you shoot somebody to save the planet? If you say yes, then you're a killer - we just need to negotiate the stakes.

Thats the problem with the fallacy of extension. You're extending the idea past what it actually is and then attacking your idea, not the actual one. Its a straw man argument.

Of course I am a killer, provided the circumstances lead me to kill (in a war, stopping an armed robbery, whatever).

The argument holds true. The only place it doesn't, is I would have a hard time killing someone to save the planet, if that person had done nothing wrong.

The cash for clunkers program, when all said and done, will cost of 2-3 billion dollars. Will we every see a return on that money, and if not, why was it a good thing?

Better yet, let's wait 6 months and see what it did to the auto industry, and I will ask you again. The next 6 months will not be pretty.

You said that giving people a million each for a house was bad therefore giving people money to buy whiteware was bad. Its a fallacy of extension, a strawman, you were attacking a different thing than the subject matter.

The cash for clunkers program should with any luck have implications for the US auto industry, the wider economy and the environment. If its succesful then it will have been well worth the money spent.

 

But yes, a super-grid will probably be needed in the USA. You could easily build large renewable stations (that take up a lot of land area) in the Mid-West where nobody actually lives, the problem is getting it out of there.