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nightsurge on 24 August 2009
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WereKitten said:
nightsurge said:
gergroy said:
the things people do. How is his intolerance of other peoples beliefs any different from their intolerance of his beliefs. It's all hypocritical to me.

This is exactly how I feel.

I have nothing wrong with gay individuals, but if they want to make a big deal about having the right to express their beliefs and practice, then people should also have the right not to.  Just because they are gay does not mean I have to like the idea of it.  I'm not going to shun a movie because a director was gay or something.  Their sexual preferrence has nothing to do with their professional skills or talents.  I don't support gay marriage or anything of the sort because to me it just isn't right and I have all the right in the world to hold that belief whether it is based on experience, religious views, or simply personal choice.  Gays have no right to try and make someone tolerant of something just as we have no right to make gays stop being gay.

Ah, the old "but you're not tolerant of intolerance" verbal nonsense.

Accepting people for how they are (gender, sexual orientation, skin color, height) and allowing them to live freely and equally is not the same thing as saying that you should be tolerant of every choice an individual may make.

And saying that you recognize to everyone the right to express their opinion does not mean that you recognize all opinions as equally valid or civil or significative.

And nightsurge, how can you say "I have nothing wrong with gay individuals" and then say that you don't support gay marriage bacause "it just isn't right"? Both can't be true at the same time.

Nobody is asking you to like gay marriage, but that's not the point. What civil rights associations ask is that whether you like it or not should not limit the rights of other people who are not harming anyone with their actions.

 

You do realize I said "to me" it just isn't right.  Way to try and take what I said out of context to make me look evil.  I'm saying to me the idea of being gay isn't something I'd ever consider, nor do I feel it a natural thing to occur.  That doesn't mean I hate gay people or what they do, as I have some gay friends.  I don't let my opinion on the matter reflect my treatment of others.  We were created with parts meant to reproduce with the opposite gender.  Humans cannot reproduce with same gender.  Thus attempting to reproduce with the same gender is not "natural." And I'm sure you'll take that to mean something aweful, but it's just a personal statement and view of mine, which again, has no reflection on how I treat individuals who are gay.  I treat everyone with equal respect regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.

I am not asking to limit their rights.  They can have equal rights in anything they want.  All I am saying is that I personally never have to accept it or like it.  And for the record, not all opinions are equally valid or civil or significative.  If that were so, Hitler's opinion of Jews being an inferior people would have be accepted and tolerated just as any other.