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Andrew said:
Okay nick, imagine if you have some skis on and wings attached to your arms and somehow you are going foward and your on a treadmill. If their is no airforce to pick you up their is no chance of you flying up.

Simple as that

Right, but the point is the treadmill isn't going to stop you from going forward and getting the airforce needed.  The wheels just have bearings so the treadmill shouldn't effect anything.  Am I missing what you're trying to explain to me somehow?  Relative to the ground and earth outside of some "landingstrip lengthed treadmill" you're still definitely moving just like you would on solid pavement.  That's all that is need for takeoff yeah?



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