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digitalentourage said:

What? how are the people I listed funny? I don't get it. Do I need to make a list of reasons why? The entirety of the gaming world is not just the Wii, you really should get that into your head. Sales are not everything. Some of the most influential books and paintings were not the most profitable, and that certainly is true for gaming as well.

I'm not saying the wii or nintendo do not have the quality and influence as well, because they do, I'm just saying that because something didn't make that much money doesn't mean it isn't important.

Deus Ex (Warren Spector) For instance, will remain one of the most influential games of all time regardless of how well it sold. There is still nothing on the market today that is anything like it.

I would add Richard Garriot too for same reason as Warren Spector. Theres no other game that is as detailed as most of games in ultima serie.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_VII

"The gameworld is renowned for its interactivity: virtually everything not nailed to the ground can be moved, taken, or interacted with in some fashion. It is possible, for instance, to bake bread, to forge weapons, to milk cows, to play musical instruments, and even to change a baby's swaddling. The Avatar and his companions will complain of hunger pains and severe thirst, and will even die if these matters are not attended to properly. If they come across a disgusting or gruesome scene, they may groan and vomit."

+ Game is highly unlinear + etc.

Full map: http://ian-albert.com/misc/gamemaps/ultima7/full/u7-map-sm.jpg

Oh, and oblivions radiant AI is crap compared to ultima 7, where people work, eat, spend free time and sleep in their day cycle.

(Mind you that game run in 8MB)

Can you name even one game that has even those? Nope, even elder scrolls games can't compete with it.