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Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Nor reuw?

And I'm not talking about the little things, I'm talking about the bigger things... like the huge effects to the environment from smoking, etc - those are things that should be paid for, not a slightly slower response time from knowing too much.

It's funny how you completely changed the argument. Hell, you didn't even address the rest of my original post.

And what's not paying for these things? If these things go unaccounted for (I mean the big things, like environmental damage), and people suffer from it - EVERYONE, not just the people who used the good/service, isn't that infringing on rights more so? I don't really understand how paying the true cost of something is fascist in any way.

A) Says someone supporting nationilzed healthcare?

Nobody should pay these "true costs" except smokers?   A good way to make everyone pay the "True costs" is to get rid of all socialism.

B) People aren't taxed for roads based on how much they use them, people are charged on 99% of stuff.  Only cigarrettes... because it's easy.

I'm not debating socialism or anything, here, and neither did I say that only smokers should pay these true costs... everyone should on everything, and that is what's going to happen in the future, hell, it's happening now with things like pollution permits and stamp duty.

As for how this applies to health-care (seeing as that what was what the initial topic was about), health-care is slightly different because the net total costs (indirect + direct) is outweighed by the net benefits (indirect + direct) - I don't claim to have the answers, though.