Socialist, and the dangers of government.

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pastro243 said:

TheRealMafoo said:

tombi123 said:

Put Ghandi, Mandela, Fidel and Che on the left and it suddenly doesn't seem so evil.

The only country to ever drop a nuke onto another, is a capitalist country.

In a socialist country, the government can fuck you over.

In a capitalist country, corparations do fuck you over.

The only good society is a moneyless society.

I never said that all left countries are evil, I said all evil countries are left.

If you don't want government to have the power to be evil, don't give them the power. All left countries are countries where government has a lot of power. All right governments have far less power.

As for the Nuke. We nuked a country that attacked us. We stopped Germany from Nuking the world (we as in the allies).

And very few corporations can fuck me over. First, I have to pay them. In government, someone else has to elect them.

And I hope there is never a country where effort is meaningless (moneyless).

 

First, I think the word "evil" to decribe a country its absolutly ridiculous, if not stupid.

I would also like to know how a country is better than the other for supporting liberty and democracy, and at the same time supporting dictatorships, torturing people and messing with other countries for oil.

Trying to make a political view as something evil is clearly of another time, times that we should leave behind.

Also, talking about "all" left or right countries is not near anything accurate, there are many goverments out there and they dont behave the same way even sharing political views.

This is a good point as this could be a very highly polarized thread. 

Left wing policies, right wing policies, socialism, capitalism.  I feel like I'm back in poli sci class...

Anyways just my 2 cents on this topic, each system has its merit, and each system has its drawbacks.  To classify that all "evil" countries have been left or social is quite contrary to history.  There have been many atrocities committed by the US to its own people (slavery/aboriginal issues/internment camps) and to others abroad (Middle East/Vietnam/etc) due to its foreign policy.  So I wouldn't say that all evil countries have been "left", but I also wouldnt say that the US is evil, nor is socialism or capitalism.  The term "Evil" is subjective anyways.

However, with that said, its interesting to note that there might be a correlation to an easier abuse of the socialistic systems by some "evil" people (Stalin/Hitler). 

Isn't it odd though, that Hitler considered himself anti-communistic at the same time targeting the Jewish people, many of them business oriented capitalistic?

 

BTW... On the debate of healthcare systems... the US isn't even close to being considered the greatest.  Its a good system, but definitely not the greatest.  The key here is affordable health insurance and thats what a lot of other countries have that the US doesn't (Sweden/Australia/Canada)