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TheRealMafoo on 13 August 2009
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fmc83 said:
TheRealMafoo said:
 

 

Once you find a socialist country where the people are better off then in a capitalist country, I will.

 

As an example, I have better healthcare they you can buy in your country, at any price. The only way you can match my care, is to fly here.

 

I have the same healthcare as 90% of Americans. In order to get that coverage to 100%, we need to turn our healthcare into your healthcare.

 

I was born poor, a minority, and with a disability. If I can work my ass off to get what I want, so can everyone else. If you want something given to you with no effort, move to Europe, and get the hell out of my sight.

 

Where do you get that from? If it's just directed towards squilliam, I can't judge that, but if it's directed towards the rest of the world it's purely ignorance.

My mum is 66, has diabetes and is at this very moment in the hospital after a dangerous spinal channel operation. She has socialized health care and an extra insurance that takes over all hospital costs and ensures here a single room (the costs would normally be like 10€ per day).

She could choose the doctor she wanted and went to the best one. Guess how much she pays (apart from her monthly premiums) for insulin, the operations, the treatment and her stay in the first class hospital? NOTHING.

As I stated before, the doctor is a specialist, a guy, people from Saudi Arabia and other countries fly in for and still she gets this very doctor with socialized healt care. So th e knowledge, the methods, the machines and everything around that is state of the art and still with your statement this can't be the case, because it's not the USA.

While I always enjoy, when you bring up new topics, you start to show some really big ignorance. And this specific ignorance you showed here is de facto why many people think many US-citizens are stupid AND why you feel your country is not doing good any more. Yes, the USA is a great country, but no it's not the greatest country in the world by all means. Try to get that into your mind.

I could argue about the rest of your post, but I just want to make clear, that the bolded one is just unacceptable.

I am not saying there is not good healthcare around the world. I am just saying the best is in the US. I posted a list of the top 20 hospitals somewhere on this site, and something link 16 of them (with the top 8) were from the US.

There is no place in the world where you can get better healthcare, then John Hopkins. 

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/the_johns_hopkins_hospital/index.html

The second best place in the world for medical care, is the Mayo Clinic.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/rochester/

Unless you live in the US (or are willing to fly here), you can't get care at this level. I live 2 hours from the Mayo. Any American who wants to live close to these hospitals (or any of the other top 8), can do so.

I am glad your mother is getting great treatment. I am sure many outside the US do. But if your mother had an ultra rare blood disorder, cancer or needed a new heart, here chances of living are better at these two locations, then anywhere else in the world.

So with these things available to me, and all Americans, how is that bolded statement not true, let alone unacceptable?