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TheRealMafoo on 13 August 2009
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Rath said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Squilliam said:
@ Mafoo could you also stop posting false dilemmas and such? You know you would probably lose points in a debate for asking 'would you prefer to earn $20 under x system and $40 under y system' for example.

 

Once you find a socialist country where the people are better off then in a capitalist country, I will.

 

As an example, I have better healthcare they you can buy in your country, at any price. The only way you can match my care, is to fly here.

 

I have the same healthcare as 90% of Americans. In order to get that coverage to 100%, we need to turn our healthcare into your healthcare.

 

I was born poor, a minority, and with a disability. If I can work my ass off to get what I want, so can everyone else. If you want something given to you with no effort, move to Europe, and get the hell out of my sight.

You know, you still haven't actually answered his accusation that you are posting a false dilemma.

Also your accusation that Squilliam wants something for nothing is unfounded (I certainly don't want something for nothing, as I will be a professional when I graduate I will in fact be paying more money in taxes than I get back in services - I still want a more socialist system) and telling him to move to Europe and get the hell out of your sight is hardly mature debating. In fact its just borderline flaming.

I would also rather that 100% of the population got good healthcare from the government than that 90% of the population got very good healthcare and 10% of the population got extremely poor healthcare (in fact more than 10% of the population does not have health insurance, but anyway).

100% of Americans have healthcare, it's just only 90% have health insurance. Of the ones that don't have insurance, 50% of them are under the age of 30, with 70% of them working full time. So, for a lot of the 10% that don't have insurance, it's by choice.

And I would rather have more that I can earn, then anything given to me. If I lived under Norway's system, I would not have the ability to have the life I have here.

Oh, and I was not telling Squill to get out of my sight, it was directed to "random American who wants something for nothing".