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TheRealMafoo said:
Squilliam said:
@ Mafoo could you also stop posting false dilemmas and such? You know you would probably lose points in a debate for asking 'would you prefer to earn $20 under x system and $40 under y system' for example.

 

Once you find a socialist country where the people are better off then in a capitalist country, I will.

 

As an example, I have better healthcare they you can buy in your country, at any price. The only way you can match my care, is to fly here.

 

I have the same healthcare as 90% of Americans. In order to get that coverage to 100%, we need to turn our healthcare into your healthcare.

 

I was born poor, a minority, and with a disability. If I can work my ass off to get what I want, so can everyone else. If you want something given to you with no effort, move to Europe, and get the hell out of my sight.

A Nordic country? Im pretty sure many of them have higher standards of living and are far to the left of the U.S.

I respect and agree with many of your opinions. However with the good comes the bad, with the ability to organise on a nationwide scale you can get things like basic health care which may never be provided by a free market for everyone and thereby increase the level of health of everyone because everyones included so for things like vaccinations and preventing the spread of infectious deseases its an effective system, but this good comes with the ability to organise death on a massive scale.

Do you even know what our health care is? Its a public/private affair, the government will litterally book in surgery anywhere and doesn't matter whether its a public or private hospital so long as its cost effective and the treatment is good. The government here will literally fly people to Australia if its worth it or required.

I wouldn't want someone held back who simply wants to pin his ears back and go for opportunity, I also want opportunity available to anyone. I don't want a society where your chances of landing a high paying job are as much dependant on to whom you were born to and the circumstances therein, which is why I support state funding for high quality education for everyone. State funding but like with health care I personally prefer people have the choice to go private and get the same level of funding as from public schools.

What if you were born poor, a minority with cystic fibrosis? In that case in your country you may not have access to the medical care that would even give you a shot at a productive life. The typical person does not wish to be handed a golden spoon at birth from the state and expect to be fed from it for the rest of their lives.



Tease.