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TheRealMafoo said:
Squilliam said:
@ Mafoo could you also stop posting false dilemmas and such? You know you would probably lose points in a debate for asking 'would you prefer to earn $20 under x system and $40 under y system' for example.

 

Once you find a socialist country where the people are better off then in a capitalist country, I will.

 

As an example, I have better healthcare they you can buy in your country, at any price. The only way you can match my care, is to fly here.

 

I have the same healthcare as 90% of Americans. In order to get that coverage to 100%, we need to turn our healthcare into your healthcare.

 

I was born poor, a minority, and with a disability. If I can work my ass off to get what I want, so can everyone else. If you want something given to you with no effort, move to Europe, and get the hell out of my sight.

You know, you still haven't actually answered his accusation that you are posting a false dilemma.

Also your accusation that Squilliam wants something for nothing is unfounded (I certainly don't want something for nothing, as I will be a professional when I graduate I will in fact be paying more money in taxes than I get back in services - I still want a more socialist system) and telling him to move to Europe and get the hell out of your sight is hardly mature debating. In fact its just borderline flaming.

I would also rather that 100% of the population got good healthcare from the government than that 90% of the population got very good healthcare and 10% of the population got extremely poor healthcare (in fact more than 10% of the population does not have health insurance, but anyway).

 

As for a socialist country better off than America, try Norway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_States_Index

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-of-Life_Index

 

It beats America in pretty much every single metric conceived and is quite firmly a social democracy.