Socialist, and the dangers of government.

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TheRealMafoo said:

SciFiBoy said:

you think only 0.01% of humans are more or less able than others or have disabilitys that affect there ability to earn? 

um, i could also say the same about your logic, you always use the extreme examples of things to attack them, this thread is just that, you always infact assume that any socialist idea must lead to a communist dictatorship...

at least my logic isnt the logic of "i did something, therefore everyone can do it" the world really dosent work that way, its incredibly niave to think it does.

As someone who got where I am off of nothing more then a huge amount of effort, I can tell you it's at least that way in the US. Not sure about the rest of the world.

Effort can not make you a world class footballer, but effort can make you just about any other profession where skill is more important then talent.

No one meant to say that with effort you wont get anything, of course you will, but the point is you will get it in different measures. Also, not because of your case it means anyone in your country can do it, there may have been conditions you had that you could use to get a better life, conditions or oportunities, and not everyone gets the same.

This isnt like saying that if you dont succeed it means you are lazzy or didnt try hard.

Even if you try hard to make it sound like it is, the USA isnt the utopic country everyone wants to live in, I am by no means saying its bad, hell, living standards are way better than my country, but its no where as near as perfect as you talk about it.