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akuma587 on 10 August 2009
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Kasz216 said:
akuma587 said:

Everyone is a fiscal conservative until they actually have to give up something.  Hell, the Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell (R), has gotten a crazy amount of pork barrel spending for his state.  This is why I find very few people out there to be credible when they say they are fiscally conservative.  That and when they ignore the fact that tax cuts have lead to large deficits just like spending.  George W. Bush was in the red every year he was in office even when the economy was doing well.  Same for Reagan.

George Bush Sr. was the only recent Republican President one who I can legitimately call a fiscal conservative.  And his party hated him for it cause he raised taxes.  Many people who claim to be fiscally conservative are more anti-tax than pro-fiscal responsibility.  Where was all the fiscal restraint when Republicans were in office?  I mean at least the Democrats are honest about what they are doing.

I agree about that mostly.  Although there are fiscally conservative republicans and democrats out there.  They just get demonized by the press and their parties.  For example all the shit the Blue Dog Democrats got during this healthcare bill because there are no price controls, it's ridiculiously expensive, and the estimates of it's expense are well... underestimated even with the ridiculious numbers.

Or the Republicans who've called for pullout and tried to pass balanced budget ammendments.

I agree, it is complete bullshit.  The public has been pissing and moaning about Congress not being fiscally responsible.  Now when they (i.e. the Blue Dogs, Dems, and Republicans) start coming up with legitimate ways to reduce the long term yearly budget by controlling the growth of Medicare costs, people freak out.

The epitome of this hypocrisy is people telling Congress to "keep the goverment's hands off Medicare" even though the goverment runs Medicare.  People have no idea what they want, and then when they get it, they are unhappy.



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