Do You Think Obama is a Socialist... Do You Care?

[Kasz216]

superchunk said:

Kasz216 said:

superchunk said:
@kas and viper

No. Parents are not choosing to not buy healthcare. Those who do not have it A) cannot afford the very expensive price of getting healthcare not through an employer and B) work at jobs that put them just above the levels of getting the current government paid options, yet the job itself doesn't offer healthcare.

Those are the specific, hardworking people that we should help.

You guys make it sound like parents are choosing luxury cars over healthcare. lol.

Every nation in the world that isn't deathly poor, has social programs to help out those in need regardless of their government style. It is simply immoral to not try to help those you can and based on they amount of money this nation creates, we can.

People who can not afford healthcare for their children qualify for SCHIP.

These parents are in fact not choosing healthcare for their children because they believe that money is better spent elsewhere.

Private insurance for children is actually pretty cheap by the way.

That's funny, when I read the details of SCHIP it seems quite a large number of people don't qualify and for those small % that do and still don't buy it, I'm sure they are not buying luxury cars. (yes I know you didn't say they were)

Private insurance for families, kids only, etc, is not cheap to everyone.

The people is this boat simply have to choose food, electricity, water, heat, fix crappy car (if lucky to get crappy car), or insurance to cover something that may never happen.

I think you'd choose the former as well. I have a feeling you've never been without a home or no food for a couple of days. It would allow you to better see the point.

People who have to make those choices qualify for medicare... and i'd be money I know a hell of a lot more poor people then you do... and guess what.  They actually do get health treatment.  Despite living on near minimium wage jobs.

Socialied healthcare just doesn't work it leads to rationing and discrimination based on demographics.

People are forced to pay for healthcare all their lives and then are discriminated against once they reach a certain age.

Government run healthcare doesn't work.  The way to make healthcare insurance affordable is to regulate the ways private companies can offer rates... those who don't qualify for medicares biggest problem is prexisting conditions... or just not wanting it until they get a prexisting condition.

It's why non job related dental care is almost unheard of.