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ManusJustus said:
TheRealMafoo said:

The only reason we are even looking to the government to run healthcare, is the cost. As far as services, we are the best in the world.

Quality comes at a price, and efficiency is determined by getting more quality for less cost.  You can argue that America has better healthcare than the United Kingdom, but America pays three times as much for healthcare than the UK, and I have trouble envisioning the UK doubling their healthcare funding (twice as many doctors, nurces, hospitals, etc.) and not having better healthcare than America.

Healthcare Funding Per Capita (public and private):

# 1   United States: $4,631.00 per capita   
# 2   Switzerland: $3,222.00 per capita   
# 3   Germany: $2,748.00 per capita   
# 4   Iceland: $2,608.00 per capita   
# 5   Canada: $2,535.00 per capita   
# 6   Denmark: $2,420.00 per capita   
# 7   France: $2,349.00 per capita   
= 8   Belgium: $2,268.00 per capita   
= 8   Norway: $2,268.00 per capita   
# 10   Netherlands: $2,246.00 per capita   
# 11   Australia: $2,211.00 per capita   
# 12   Austria: $2,162.00 per capita   
# 13   Italy: $2,032.00 per capita   
# 14   Japan: $2,011.00 per capita   
# 15   Ireland: $1,953.00 per capita   
# 16   United Kingdom: $1,764.00 per capita   
# 17   Finland: $1,664.00 per capita   
# 18   New Zealand: $1,623.00 per capita   
# 19   Spain: $1,556.00 per capita   
# 20   Portugal: $1,439.00 per capita 

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_hea_car_fun_tot_per_cap-care-funding-total-per-capita

 

Consider (for a moment) that obese people cost the healthcare system (roughly) $1,500 more per year on average than people who are not obese, and then look at the following stastics:

 

 

Another question is are there benefits to the increased spending in the United States:

Cancer survival rates in Britain are among the lowest in Europe, according to the most comprehensive analysis of the issue yet produced.

England is on a par with Poland despite the NHS spending three times more on health care.

Survival rates are based on the number of patients who are alive five years after diagnosis and researchers found that, for women, England was the fifth worst in a league of 22 countries. Scotland came bottom. Cancer experts blamed late diagnosis and long waiting lists.

In total, 52.7pc of women survived for five years after being diagnosed between 2000 and 2002. Only Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, the Czech Republic and Poland did worse. Just 44.8pc of men survived, putting England in the bottom seven countries.

The team, writing in The Lancet Oncology, found that Britain's survival rates for the most common cancers - colorectal, lung, breast and prostate - were substantially behind those in Western Europe. In England, the proportion of women with breast cancer who were alive five years after diagnosis was 77.8pc. Scotland (77.3pc) and Ireland (76.2pc) had a lower rate.

Rates for lung cancer in England were poor, with only 8.4pc of patients surviving - half the rate for Iceland (16.8pc). Only Scotland (8.2pc) and Malta (4.6pc) did worse.

Fewer women in England lived for five years after being diagnosed with cervical cancer (58.6pc) despite a national screening programme. This compared to 70.6pc in Iceland. Dr Franco Berrino, who led the study at the National Cancer Institute in Milan, said cancer care was improving in countries that recorded low survival figures. He added: "If all countries attained the mean survival (57pc) of Norway, Sweden and Finland, about 12pc fewer deaths would occur in the five years after diagnosis."

His co-researcher, Prof Ian Kunkler from the Western General Hospital in Edinburgh, said waiting lists for radiotherapy were partly to blame.

"Although there has been a substantial investment in radiotherapy facilities, there is still a shortfall," he said.

"We have good evidence that survival for lung cancer has been compromised by long waiting lists for radiotherapy treatment."

A second article, which looked at 2.7 million patients diagnosed between 1995 and 1999, found that countries that spent the most on health per capita per year had better survival rates.

Britain was the exception. Despite spending up to £1,500 on health per person per year, it recorded similar survival rates for Hodgkin's disease and lung cancer as Poland, which spends a third of that amount.

An accompanying editorial said the figures showed that the NHS Cancer Plan, published in 2000, was not working.

"Survival in England has only increased at a similar rate to other European countries and has not caught up with the absolute values seen elsewhere," it said.

Prof Richard Sullivan at Cancer Research UK said: "Cancer is still not being diagnosed early enough in all cases."