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highwaystar101 said:
Sqrl said:
highwaystar101 said:

*Sigh* I think this humorous picture will explain things better than me...

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Basically climate change is real, but what you read in the papers is distorted.

That is sort of the farce though, isn't it?

Who would deny that the climate changes?

PS - That picture has really been making the rounds lately.

My girlfriends dad is a Climatologist (or whatever, he calls himself something else). And he basically says this is how it is. He did his PhD on climate change and he has been a researcher for nearly 30 years. He says that climate change is a very real thing and humans are the cause, but the media and the PR guys fabricate a more "exciting" truth (Read: healines saying we'll all be dead in 20 years, simply not true).

And yes I agree that pic has been making rounds, but that is because it's true and that's why it's so funny.

 

I wasn't debating the validity of the pic actually, in fact I agree with it quite a bit =P

As for your girlfriend's dad...do you mean to say that because he says it is so...it is so?  Or ...was there another point?  I don't mean to be abrassive here but I mean there are tons of scientists from every field with different views on the issue, why does his merit special attention? Does he have new information? 

I'm a reasonable person with extensive knowledge of the subject and I read from both pro- and anti- views on a regular basis (~5-10 hours a week damn near religiously) and I have yet to come acrossed anything that could concisely dismiss either side completely. I would doubt her father has such an argument to make or I'd probably know his name.

In short, I'll be persuaded when someone explains the numerous contradictions and flaws in their proposed theories and models.  Not simply because someone claims to have already found the answer. This applies both ways, because as I said in the OP, this revelation of more scientists who are outraged by the fearmongering doesn't prove or disprove anything, except that there is no consensus among scientist.  But as any scientist worth his salt will tell you the default position is that of the skeptic.



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