How Microsoft Ruined fun for everybody

[wiifan75]

crumas2 said:

noname2200 said:

crumas2 said:
Not to bash the op's opinion, but I find it amusing that someone will balk at <$4 per month for a great service, but won't complain about the fact that the Wii has stayed at its original price of $250. How Wii ruined fun for everybody by gouging users who buy the base unit.

I'll admit that I've seen far worse rebuttals, but yours kinda stinks too...

Why does my rebuttal stink?  Someone who complains about MS charging less than $4 per month for a service that costs them money to operate, but who refuses to acknowledge that Nintendo is providing much less hardware at $250 than MS is at $199, is being inconsistent.  So MS gouges by charging a little money for a service that costs money to operate, but Nintendo isn't gouging by charging so much for their console that they're making a killing on each one?

Does it stink to point out this inconsistency?

Perhaps you should actually explain why someone's post stinks if you're going to criticize.

This console pricing is not much to argue.  Comparing Ninty $250 to MS $199 isn't fair given that the $199 wasn't opening price.  Try opening prices for comparison and that would be more realistic.  Even with $199 does that include wireless controller?  NO.  Built-In WiFi?  NO.  WiFi option was $100 extra which bring that plastic box with limitations back to $299 easily.  That's one thing that Sony and Nintendo have done that's been great...  sell a console and keep it consistent.  Sony's only changes are in disk drive storage options.  MS has console with wifi and wireless controller, wifi absent with wireless, no wifi or wireless, etc.  They market to unsuspecting shoppers a value that isn't much of a value when they decide to try something with their console that someone else is doing with another model.  Example, Wii and PS3 have WiFi.  MS with their many options had some 360s with wifi and some without.  My nephew with his first one kept trying to connect to his house's wireless internet.  I tried helping him and so did his dad.  Found out his model didn't have built in WiFi.  What a shame.  Everyone buying a Wii or PS3 had the same system basically as everyone else they knew with the same system.  360 owners that received theirs as gifts (like my nephew) or others that just aren't familiar enough with the hardware were disappointed to find that they all didn't have the same consoles.

If you want to compare something to the $199 360, then wait until Wii hardwires it's controller to the front of the console and removes the WiFi guts from the system.  Then you'll have a comparison.