Sqrl said:
Fix everything? Of course not. Make progress rather than make things worse? Absolutely. Note I don't agree/support big_boss' plan to be perfectly clear. I do have to correct you on this point however, the president doesn't "just give the final say" - Historically he has been heavily involved in the formation and direction of new legislation, this is especially true of signature legislation that he campaigned on and promised to deliver. As for Obama knowing what he is talking about...nothing could be so obviously further from the truth. Obama doesn't have a clue when it comes to the economy, health-care, taxes, or really anything that isn't giving a speach or community organizing. During the campaign he and his followers admitted as much saying he would have advisers who knew these issues that could advise him. The man has never run a business, never met a payroll, has no experience with the health-care industry and his only experience is basically 2 years in the senate (strictly speaking 4 but he was gone half the time campaigning), and anyone can tell you a legislative position is starkly different from an executive one. The only time prior to being elected he had ever held any executive position he spent $100 million dollars on education reform in Chicago and when it was all spent his own assessment concluded they had a negligible impact on the schools....this same story has now repeated itself with the stimulus bill but the stimulus bill is 7,000 times more money - but federal dollars both times. The fact is he is lying out his ass constantly about the stimulus and health-care to cover. Examples?
Obama's work thus far is abysmal. The best he has to offer is made up stats of "jobs saved" which nobody can actually verify and much of the jobs the stimulus did create are temporary with several having terminated thus putting those people back into unemployment lines. Outside of that he and the left has the "just imagine" rhetoric which asks you to 'imagine what it would have been like without his plan!' We don't have to imagine, as he showed us himself : we would be much better off. And given that that graph is his assessment it is a safe bet it painted the prettiest picture he could get it to show without outright making things up (this is standard political stuff and I don't fault him for it - just to be clear). Meaning he gave himself leeway for what he thought would happen under his plan so he could claim "wow it worked even better than we hoped!" in the event it went well and so that in the event it went poorly he would have some breathing room (again I don't fault him for this - in fact it would worry me if he hadn't because not putting forth some effort to manage expectations would be a huge blunder on his part). |
That's the problem....he has put some effort into this...obviously there's a situiation taht's going on that he doesnt want say so the country doesnt go into panic mode and is trying fine the solution. but when the media wants a conference every single day what are you gonna do: deny? In this day and age that'll quickly start rumors and bring his rating down worse than it is now. The man has been in office not that long and this plan hasnt even been put in effect fully yet. And without the plan we still probably would have been in a bad position. The only thing i dont like is the turnaround we're getting and even the Republicians don't care cuz they're too busy looking at throwing out Sotomayor....
In the end I rather agree to disagree and let this die...cuz until we see the end result neither one of us is gonna be right.
