Final-Fan said:
joeorc said:
HappySqurriel said:
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joeorc said:
crumas2 said:
Lots of interesting stuff in this thread, such as claims that the cell is a CPU/GPU hybrid (it's a CPU with some really powerful DSP hardware built in, not a GPU), and that the cell has 8 cores (it doesn't... it has 1 PPE and 8 SPEs, 6 of which can be used by developers), and finally, that the Cell isn't any harder to develop for than the tri-core processor in the 360 (it's definitely harder to develop for if you want to get good performance out of it).
I do however agree that the Cell has a higher top-end than the tri-code CPU in the 360, but it takes heavy lifting to get there, i.e. - it costs more. |
yea let's see, where is your PHD...yea let's all agree you know more than the people that designed the d@mn chip.
the facts are:
THE CELL IS FOR A FACT A HYBRID CPU/GPU no matter how much you want to say it is not it is what it is.
THE CELL PROCESSOR'S SPE's are in fact Full blown processing CORES no matter how much you want to say it is not it is what it is.
even with 100% proof you still have people such as yourself that refuse to say you were wrong.
this is getting rather silly.
have fun with your AGENDA
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Whenever you're dealing with the classification of something where there is no "solid" characteristics that are used to determine how to group things together it becomes very much open to debate ... and even the designer of something doesn't have a more authoritative opinion on the matter. The Cell processor lacks the ability to handle shader effects at a decent level, which means that it can not really be classified as a GPU in the modern sense.
From what I have seen, you have as large (or larger) agenda of anyone in this thread, and you seem unwilling to listen to other people who have a better understanding of how processors work, what is important, and how to classify them. Your opinion is so trapped in the marketing and hype surrounding the Cell that you can not accept that it is not amazingly powerful when it comes to being a CPU for a videogame console. |
o'l please your trying to claim your OPINION on something is more correct than the people with PHD's who ONCE again designed the D@MN CHIP..YEA GOTCHA.
yea because the Cell cannot handle shader effects at a decent level that make's it not a GPU..god that's like saying because 3 cycle engine is not as fast as a v8 is not an engine.. yea gotcha
better understanding of how processor's work...OK you program for what type of processor's.? and your the end all be all on all type's of processor's.
My AGENDA..my AGENDA please if anyone has AGENDA'a it's the people such as your self you have no problem in asking for proof what something is but when it's posted you then come out and say well that's not what it need's to be classified as. Even when it's 100% proof + that it is. it is you and other's that are clear on their AGENDA |
Seriously man, say it don't spray it.
I've looked at that PDF, and it seemed to me that it was saying that the Cell was a step in the direction of CPU/GPU hybridization, not that it was full-blown already at the destination.
In any case, tone it down and stop putting apostrophes everywhere a word ends in "s"!
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the PDF is very clear in what the Cell Processor is classed as. It is indeed a C/GPU Hybrid Multi-Core processor.
that was what it is. Look I respect you and all , an as you can see English was not my strongest subject.
The very fact that this is just one PDF in quite a number of Documents that I have about this HPC processor.
There have been many speaking engagement's from many chip designer's in the field of HPC that i have had the privilege of listening to and to that end ,I do not have an Agenda at all .I am just pointing out misconception's about the Cell.
Just like the Misconception of the Wii just being 2 Game Cube's stuck together. or that The Xbox360 is far weaker than the PS3 which is not true at all. just like that the xbox360 has a more powerful Graphics capability than the ps3 which is not true at all. All thress systems Each have their strengths and weakness.
For the most part all the systems this generation spec's aside are even anyway because they all play Game's. That's what it's about is it not?
The Game's is what its about, Now for Me i like talking about the Game's and the Spec's of each of the machine's . which is why i posted what i did.There have been many on this forum that have stated that The SPE's in the Cell processor are not Core's.The truth of the matter is they are Core's other's may not agree with it but, that is their Opinion on the CELL processor an while I respect their Opinion.
I also respect that their Opinion is wrong, From the people who designed the Cell Processor in the first place. the fact that I have had to post such fact's twice on the forum, and the very same people refuse to Agree with the Chief Cell processor team's Claims is troubling in my Opinion.
because it seem's to me ,The same people have the Opinion of the Cell and no matter what the fact's are they refuse to learn something Instead they just do not care to learn about it because they do not want to learn about it .But on the same token want to give their opinion on it , and be dismissive toward anyone who has Fact's that are not just conjecture, but Fact's just the same and say no matter what their Opinion is more credible than the main people who happen to have created in this case the Cell Processor.
Like i said I respect that they have an Opinion on the Matter . But to me it just seem's they on one hand demand proof, and when its shown no matter what it's just dismissed as the person has an Agenda or a fanboy because he just so happens to have fact's about in this case the PS3 that is contrary to popular Opinion of people who have agreed that their Opinion is right an that it is this way instead of how it actually is.
just sayin.
