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theprof00 said:
Lord Flashheart said:

^erm all those sony games could also have been made if sony weren't around. Those dev houses would simply make a game on a different platform. Remember how sony got those studios?
By buying them also games like K2 and uncharted are made by studios that choose to make exclusives.

Without sony those games would still be here.

Only Nintendo can the point your poorly trying to make about sony games be true for.
Without Ninty (and Sega when they was making hardware) most of their franchises and games not exist but for Sony and MS their exclusives would be elsewhere.

I think Nintendo would still turn out mario games even if they didn't have a console in the race. I think it's fair to say that most games would still come out regardless of the vying consoles. Sorry, just being anal here. I know it's not your idea.

EDIT: Also, about the thing about Sony having outside studios with deve from within... A lot of Sony's third party supports are actually second party and are oftentimes co-developed with Sony techs and devs for the purposes of influencing the gameplay and optimizing code for the platform. THe gameplay guidance is meant to help adjust to the demographic. So, in a small part they are a big part of IP development, and the games possibly wouldn't be the same without the help, but then again, they very well could be better in some cases.

The same can be said for MS. There are so many 2nd/3rd party games on the 360 that MS plays a big part in IP development, influencing the gameplay, incorporating and optimizing xbox live into games and optimizing code for the platform. Just to name a few....Mistwalker's RPGs, PGR 1-4, the Fable franchise, Halo franchises, Gears Of War franchise, Forza...etc. These games would exist without MS just as Uncharted, Motorstorm, LBP, the Metal Gear series & Killzone 1 & 2 would exist without Sony. It's the developers who make these games not Sony or MS. Only Nintendo has a FEW games that couldn't be made without Nintendo and only because they are Nintendo developers making them...not leased out developers like they did with Metroid: The Other M.



Being in 2nd feels so much better than being in 3rd