Sony is the only company I am 100% sure will make a next gen console

[Onyxmeth]

solidpumar said:

Onyxmeth said:

For all your talking, you've still yet to explain why Nintendo would become a third party publisher as opposed to a first party publisher/hardware maker. Nintendo makes consoles they see profit on rather fast. There's no reason to think that will change. So you're saying the following is what they might do compared to what they do now:

1. They make money off a console, accessories, a downloadable games service on said console, and massive game sales that they see every cent of.

or your scenario:

2. No hardware profits, no accessory profits, no Virtual Console/WiiWare profits, and a smaller cut of their game sales because they're now paying other console makers fees to put their games on their systems.

Other inconsistencies with your argument:

a. There's no guarantee Nintendo games will be able to sell as well without Nintendo also driving the console behind them.

b. There's no guarantee Sony or Microsoft's next consoles will fall in line with Nintendo's continued visions, which may cripple their innovation in making software. In fact, seeing as how both console makers concetrate heavily on M rated games and lots of online multiplayer, it's almost a guarantee Nintendo will not fit in.

c. There's no guarantee Sony or Microsoft's next consoles will be able to capture the expanded audience Nintendo has acquired with the Wii and DS. I see that audience just going back to having other hobbies if MS and Sony create consoles similiar to their current ones. It can very easily shrink the game buying community for the first generation ever.

d. You've also failed to explain why Nintendo would drop consoles and not handhelds. Both follow the same strategy. If one goes, why not the other?

e. Blue Ocean Strategy is not any major surprising shift a company can do, like just saying "Boo! HAHA! Surprised you!". It's acquiring a market not being catered to currently. Nintendo entering a third party publishing market infested with hundreds of other publishers that are already busy trying to capture that Nintendo magic is entering the red ocean.

There is no garantee their next console will make money. Ps2 made money, but the ps3 didn't

I did NOT sayed nintendo will drop OUT.

I SAID NO ONE WILL DROP OUT, in the post you quoted for gods sake.

MS, SONY, Nintedo will likely release another console. I have been saying that for the whole thread.

I said SONY CHANCE OF DROPING OUT IS LESS THAN NINTENDO. Which is true regardless of how bigger nintendo chance are, simply because I beliave there is 0% chance sony will drop out, for similar reason you think nintendo wont.

But I dont think any will drop out of hardware sales. NONE.

 At least for next gen.... in next next gen things might change.

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M rated games... what? every console has rated E games, VIVA PINATA, LBP, free realms, singtar (just some 1st party i mentioned) And if sony and ms really only catter to M (which is a lie), just mean that NIntendo will have less competiton in publishing games. They could make people buy ps4 to play mario and not god of war4, you dont need to play evry game the console has.

Shrink gaming community because the product doesnt have Nintendo stamp on it? biased much? Nintendo games wouldnt disappear.

You arguments are so faulty and you have the guts to say mine is incosistent?

Sony gambled with the PS3. They priced themselves out of the market and hoped brand value and an unproven movie format would spell success. Their gamble failed, and failed big. Nintendo does not gamble that big. Nintendo does not create consoles that can't see profitibility three years after release. So even if Nintendo goes back to Gamecube sales, that console will still be profitable and will be worth staying in business for, since Nintendo's own games can still record many millions in sales on low selling hardware.

If you never believed Nintendo would drop out, then why type out such a long, drawn out argument about it? You didn't get facepalms because of your statements on Sony, it's because you threw a ridiculous Nintendo scenario into the mix that would never happen.

Look at how much the E rated games on Sony and Microsoft's consoels sell and then look at the Wii. You don't see the difference? You don't think it may be a result of a staggering difference in demographics between the HD consoles and the Wii? LBP had a massive ad campaign, got fantastic word of mouth, and was a frontrunner for GOTY everywhere. It sold on par with a mediocre Sonic game on the Wii.

On the PS3 there are three E rated titles in the top 10 for third parties, all of which are licensed sports titles and are near the bottom. On the 360, there is one E rated title in the top 10 and it's a licensed sports title, also at the bottom. I'm obviously not counting the holiday bundle titles on the 360, so don't ask about them. On the PS3, the top 6 third party titles are all rated M and 6/10 of the top 10 are M rated. On the 360, the top 4 third party titles are M rated out of 6/10 total in the top 10.

On the Wii, 8/10 of the top 10 third party titles are rated E. None of them are licensed sports titles. There are no M rated titles in the top 10. There are minigame collections, sports collections, an action title and a platformer rounding out the E rated titles. Similiar to how there is genre range on the M rated titles in the top 10 on the HD consoles, there is genre range for the E rated titles on the Wii.

The demographics are different. It's easy to see.

Also it's been proven already that there are statements made that if Nintendo stopped making consoles, the games do disappear. So you are wrong there.

My arguments can't be faulty since they oppose yours, and you've already admitted to not believing what you say is going to happen.