Sqrl said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Slimebeast said:
Like Mafoo is saying, it's my time that is being stolen! Work work work 8 hours a day (over 10 hours if u include lunch break and transportation), do you think I am doing it voluntarily?
Im fu***ing wasting my life and getting robbed!! As a doctor in Sweden I make just a measily $54,000 a year (before taxes) after almost 10 years of experience at this work, 6 years of med school and $75,000 in student loans.
And then this myth, everyone I meet out there believes I'm wealthy because Im a doctor.
My closest relatives were unfortunate in life, so they're pretty much living off of wellfare ($800-$1000/month) and it feels so wrong that I can't afford to help them because the state is robbing $3500 off of me every month and giving it to others. $3500 worth of services that I produce by treating and helping 20 patients every day.
Instead of giving some of it to people I love I am forced to give it to leeches. Meanwhile my family gets to see the angry and irritated part of me because Im tired after work. It's so wrong.
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Really? Is this the idealogy of the right? "Me, me, me?" You even emphasized this my bolding "my time," as if somehow your time were holy and special. Anyone who values their time so highly would never spent a second of it playing videogames, since that is, in the end, a waste of time. Look, my tax dollars go towards building and repairing roads that I'll never use, and giving services to people that I'll never meet. And I'm happy to do this, because I know that other people are doing the same for me. You're not being robbed, stop being so sensationalist. The people who get services like welfare aren't leeches. If you were put in the same situation, or you lost your job and you needed assistance, should people just forget about you and think of you as a leech?
It's a selfish attitude, and I don't like it.
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What exactly is wrong with people looking after their own interests? Yes "MY TIME", bolded underlined and size 120 font if you like.
You're wrong that someone who values their time so highly would never play video games. Your mistake is in seeing the word value to mean the cash value of the time as opposed to understanding that it is the freedom of allocation that is highly valued and not just the time itself.
Every second someone spends working unwillingly and uncompensated on another's behalf is slavery by definition. Without that "selfish" reqiurement of compensation that is exactly what it is, but you wouldn't call it "selfish" to desire not to be a slave. And compensation is not simply a tangential benefit decided on by another, it is something the person actually wants, requests, and is agreed to before the work is done. So to the extent that someone gets something they value for their tax dollars this is not slavery, but government corruption, waste, and yes for some even welfare...makes all of us slaves to the system and those who profit from this while others get no compensation for the money that is wasted, embezzled, etc....are made the masters of the slaves who pay those taxes.
People need to have the proper disdain for taxes to fully appreciate the question of what kind of system we should use. Specifically they should understand that taxation is inherently a form of national enslavement. Every person will disagree with how their money is spent in some way. No matter how we slice it forcing someone to work for something they don't want or even would like to prevent in many cases is slavery. We can justify it a number of ways by, for instance, saying "Well the will of one man cannot be allowed to subvert the need of the nation." etc... But that is just another way of saying "Well tough shit...then that man will just have to be a slave to the nation."...only we phrase it in our mind in a way that allows us to sleep better.
I know some will point to democracy and say that is really what this goes back to but this ignores the distance between two points. Specifically the points where any given man is given a vote in the booth and the point at which the policy which spends his money is actually put into effect. No man when he casts his vote has even the feintest illusion that he could control such a fine aspect of the government. But even so, nobody votes for government waste and nobody votes for government ineffeciency so the problem persists regardless.
I'm sure this type of commentary will be found severe by many. But such is the severe reality of a tax system or really any system where a person's work is put to use for purposes out of their control. We are told it is a necessary evil (I see alternatives) and given the political climate this is probably true. But where I diverge from the left the most is that they seem happy with this slave and master based reality to the system...a position that, to me, defies logic.
PS - I'm not speaking of simply a symbolic slavery, but literal slavery - to view it any other way is fooling one's self into a false sense of comfort.
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