SamuelRSmith said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
TheRealMafoo said:
ph4nt said: Health care in the UK is abysmal from what i've heard.
A lot of places in Europe with socialized medicine have it way worse than America, having to wait months and months for the simplest things.
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I also hear that they calculate how much it cost to keep you alive, and then base it on that. The number I head was $22,000 for 6 months.
So if you have something that medication can keep you living for years on, but it cost more then 44,000 a year, you get to die.. yay.
Also, they ration things. One I heard was this eye drop medication that cost a ton. It will keep you from going blind, but being they have to have enough to go around on fixed cost, they just put it in one eye. This way twice as many people get the medication.
In the US, these types of things are unheard of, and down right despicable.
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If you're talking about the UK, you hearing wrong.
I don't think I've ever heard of someone getting rejected because they've spent too much, nor have I heard about the eye drops thing. Hell - I was eye drops for a while for my glasses (dunno why).... and I sure as hell had it in both my eyes.
And that was under a Tory Government....
Both of you guys actually need to get out an go to a UK hospital (seriously, help out our tourism ), you guys have many false conceptions about waiting times, quality of care, etc. in "socialised" health care systems.
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I'vre read both. From UK newsources.
Then something happened to one of the guys with a glass eye.
Additionally it is well documented that local NHS offices often ration drugs and there are many drugs not approved simply for cost reasons. People of different demograhics DO get treated differently.
Shitty thing to pay all your life to NHS and not get treatment because you didn't get cancer until you were older.
It's all under "guidence"
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Yeah, you've read both, we've had this before. You brought up about 20 articles, could probably find a couple hundred more.
But thousands and thousands of people benefit from the system each and every day. As SciFiBoy said, there isn't a system that won't fail people.
If what you read was more the norm, then you wouldn't be reading it at all, particularly from UK news sources, as it wouldn't be news.
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Agism in NHS isn't the norm?
Survival for those over 70 are the lowest in western Europe and The United states.
http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/110200/NHS-bias-against-elderly-people-is-quite-outrageous
Which is the problem. National healthcare either has to blindly provide and go bankrupt or discriminate.