Ail said:
HappySqurriel said:
Ail said:
Arius Dion said:
The whole Hardcore Casual thinking is exactly the sort of narrowminded and limiting viewpoint that has ccasued many third parties to lose money in the first place. Talk about demographics and market just adds to the confusion and causes further tp's have success on Wii evade them. Even with Bioware talking like they haven't "figured the Wii out" it isn't rocket science.
I don't recall the whole casual/hardcore talk during the NES era and beyond. Maybe heard murmurs during the PS2 era, but nothing like it is now. I think its reall just viral marketing really and an attempt to have a segmented gaming industry. The heart of this OP, the heart of the Wii hate, the heart of hoping Wii third party titles fail is that the other Console owners want comfort in knowing that games won't stop being made for their platforms. All the PS3 vs 360 changes the moment Wii is involved to become Wii vs HD.
Third Parties flocked to the PS1 from Nintendo back in the day under many of the same circumstances facing the PS3..and lesser extent of the 360. PS3 is in a strange situation because it is almost dependent on the 360 and plagued by it.
I may be alone in thining this but I don't think this gen is going to end as early as everyone thinks it is, and I also think that just like the NES the third parties will be more visible on Wii toward the latter half of this gen.
Will Wii get the kind of third party support PS2 had? probably not, but also some third parties that were around during that gen might not be around by the time this gen closes, or at the very least bought out by some bigger 3rd party conglomerate. |
I tend to disagree.
The whole hardcore/casual segregation is what has allowed a third party like Activision to dominate this gen.
They understand well what each segment of the market wants and have managed to deliver the top selling third party games in both segments.
CoD for the hardcore, GH for the casuals...
And they are very successfull doing so, although if you look at those 2 franchises, the hardcore one (CoD) is actually the one that is experiencing the most growth..
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If by dominate you mean bleed money from their console gaming division, and the only reason they're a profitable company is because of World of Warcaft; a massively multiplayer online roleplaying game designed to appeal more to both the "Casual" and "Hardcore" players of the genre, with graphics (roughly) on par with a Wii game because they focused on accessable and deep gameplay and a good art style rather than fancy technology.
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Before you start making statements like this you need to learn to read a company's fiscal report. I know it's standard behavior on these forums to post random stuff without checking your facts but still.....
Last I checked both side of Activision's business were hugely profitable.
For the 12 months ended December 31st 2008 :
Non-GAAP Comparable Basis Segment Operating Income (Loss) in millions:
Activision / Blizzard / Others
$ 469 $ / 704 $ / 27
Straight out of their financial report....
PS : Thanks for explaining me what Wow is, I mean I have only spend like 220 days of rl life playing it the last 4 years...).
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The last yearly financial statement from Activision Blizzard is financial 2008 which has their total operating income at $3.026 Billion and their operating expenses at $3.259 billion for an operating loss of $233 Million dollars ... Certainly, they had a massive gross profit of over $1.187 Billion (the numbers you're looking at), but after the massive expense of marketing and developing (future) games they lost money.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:ATVI&fstype=ii
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