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perpride said:
Aiemond - Have you once looked at Activision games sell on Sony platforms? Do you even know that he was not just talking about PS3? He was talking about dropping all support for Sony platforms. Have you once looked at how third party published games sell on the Wii? On PS3? How about the two in comparison? The gap is nowhere near how big it was back in the PS2 days. Have you ever seen the sales for Activision games on PS3? OK...I thought not.....do that...and then tell me how dreadful Sony's third place console is doing. Pretty damn god for last place if you ask me.

PS3 exclusives are going to 360 because of Wii's success. That's it. And it is not a one way damn road. Look at how many 360 exclusives have come to PS3 and then tell me that third parties are running from PS3. It sounds like you are still in early 2007 my friend. 360's highest rated exclusive EVER, Bioshock (and its forthcoming sequel), have now come/are headed to PS3. Eternal Sonata, Dead Rising 2, Lost Planet, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Tales of Vesperia are several other examples that pop straight into my mind.

Activision not developing for Sony would be a dumbfuck move on Activision's part, especially since they already have people that know how to develop for PS3 and have already put out so many games. Don't call me a fanboy then stand up for every piece of shit that is written against Sony.

Look, I said that he was under pressure to get ps3 titles to sell better and has enough leverage that he can get away with it.. That's why he made the comment. They would only do this is they thought the cost for porting these games excede the amount of profit they could get by allocating these funds to a different project, such as map packs, wow expansions, etc. IMO they would have to have lower sales then they do now for a port not to be economical. The exception to this rule is niche games that will sell low amounts either way. Niche games are the types that benifit from being on only one console. Now, if the ps3 had a very bad holiday season again and software sales declined then they would have a reason to pull support. Again, this is what happened to the GC. As for your comment on how the gap is not as big as it was during the ps2 days that just means that MS has had a far better generation and sony has had a far worse one. 

 

You want me to tell you how dreadful the ps3 is doing? Ok.

It performed FAR below expectations.

It continues to lose money for every unit sold even at $400.

It caused Sony to go from a very very large lead during the ps2 generation to the LAST place console this generation.

It lost brand power for the Playstation name. 

It lost, so far, all the money that was made during the ps1 and ps2 generations

It lost many exclusives from last generation.

What is good? It is the most powerful? So? How is this helping it right now? It is hard to justify an exclusive for the platform that takes advantage of it because costs to do so are so high. And when you make a multiplatform game it is basically the same on both HD platforms. As for the 360 exclusives going to ps3 as well, you are right it is a two way ship. HD games are expensive to make and companies want to maximize the profit. The only reason that these games would stop going to both platforms are like I said earlier: companies think they can make more profit from taking the costs to port the game and applying it to other projects they think will have better returns. One example would be valve. It is very easy to port PC games to the 360 and Valve specializes in PC games. The cost to put it on the 360 is very minimal. To port it to the ps3, though,  they would have to train and hire new people to focus on porting the projects. Or you pay another company to do this work. Valve prolly simply decided it would get a better return to focus those funds into different projects such as steam. But for most companies that already have ps3 staff I think it is more costs effective to just do multiplat unless software sales decline compared to what they are now (which could occur if ps3 has a bad holiday season again compared to 360 and wii). Of course another reason is fanboyism, something that is quite prevalent in the industry. When people who do not understand business are making the business decisions, this can happen. 

 

Lastly, as for activision again, they have enough cash cows that they would be hurt less by dropping ps3 than sony would. Sony is hurting on many fronts and losing one of the biggest third parties would be a huge blow to the system that could have other publishers do the same thing. Activision knows this and that is why they feel they can make threats and comments like they did. As for your comment on me calling you a fanboy, well Sony fanboys try to make it sound like the ps3 is in a fine position and that everything attacking it is BS. There is alot of shit said that does not make sense and is untrue, but to think Sony is fine and are having no problems, and that the gaming division is perfect and doing just like it wanted is stupid. The reality is it is underperforming so badly that it has managed to lose all the moeny it has ever made. There is not good way to spin that. 



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