| BMaker11 said: I already conceded to Crysis because it's on the PC (even though the CryEngine runs better on PS3 than 360, but that's another story) But Gears of War???? I lol'd @madskillz I see the error in the PS3. It was too expensive. Plain and simple. Had it launched at $400, then the hype behind it would have carried it to infinity and beyond. But at $600 and the same games as the 360, not that many people would've wanted it. That much is obvious. It's not a matter of "blaming the consumers for not seeing the value". They only don't buy the console because it's too much money. A fair analogy, not that many people own Ferrari's, but many own a Honda Accord. Why? It's cheaper. Both things go from point A to point B. They both need oil checks, tune ups, tire changes, etc...but the Ferrari is more expensive. And many people know why it's more expensive...but they still don't buy it because it costs more. There are advantages to owning a Ferrari over an Accord, but to some, they don't want to pay that much to get it. Now if the Ferrari was $20,000, or at least at price parity with the Accord, what car do you think more people would buy? And the thing with Valve isn't a matter of blaming. They are supposed to be "the greatest developers in the world" (as hailed by 360 fans)....but when it comes to the PS3, they simply say "this is too hard, I don't wanna do it". Not because "we won't make any money in this investment, so it isn't wise" (for example, not putting Modern Warfare on the Wii because Activision doesn't believe the demographic is there for that game) but because "it's too hard" and "too difficult". So much for being great developers huh? And the only reason, and I mean ONLY reason PS3 fans "grin devilishly" when a 360 game comes to the PS3 is because this ENTIRE generation has been nothing but M$ going "look guys, we get these Playstation games too, you can come play our system now" and now the mass public thinks that it's pointless to get a PS3 because "that game is just going to end up on the 360 anyway". They have brainwashed a lot of people into thinking that, so now, despite having INCREDIBLE games come out from the 1st party and still getting great 3rd party exclusives, the loss of things like GTA, Final Fantasy, DMC, etc outweigh everything else because they were big, established franchises. And many people think to broad. Since GTA went to the 360....the PS3 "has no games" to some still. Maybe not on this forum, but I remember when I bought GTAIV, I was at the midnight launch, and I heard some townie saying "there's no point in buying a PS3. It has the same games as the 360, but it is more expensive". Any smart person would know that the PS3 has a lot of unique and great games that distinguish it from everything else. But anyway, it's Sony's turn with getting the games from the 360. It's only going to be a matter of time before people start looking at the 360 and saying "it's just going to end up on the Playstation anyway". But I guess it won't happen that fast because the 360 was the underdog, getting all the big names from the German Shepard that ran the yard. But now that the PS3 is in last place, it's the underdog taking all the big names...because if I recall correctly, the PS3 has the 360's highest rated exclusive: Bioshock And let Activision make good on their threat. Lose the potential sales from 22M PS3 owners, 120+ million PS2 owners, and 50M PSP owners...that'd be smart /rant |
Does Cry Engine 3 run better on PS3? All I heard was that in some areas the PS3 version ran better, animation bla bla bla, and some areas the 360 ran better, things like shaders etc.
Your Ferrari analogy is flawed, because people would still buy more Accords at $20k than Ferraris at $20k. Ferraris are unreliable, they cost a lot to insure and maintain and the car itself isn't special if everyone can buy one, also the Ferrari is completely impractical with no boot space, seating for two etc. Furthermore it would chew through at least twice as much gas. Lastly the PS3 is no ferrari, at best its a V6 optioned Camry, people who want absolute performance don't buy PS3s they are slow and mediocre compared to what you can buy when money is no object.
Tell me what incredible games has the PS3 had that set the market ablaze with envy? Aside from Metal Gear Sold 4 I can't think of a single one that was exclusive to the PS3. The Xbox 360 has had Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 exclusives two 5M+ sellers and one which almost hit 10M. MGS4 hasn't hit 5M copies sold, and you can measure the impact on the market by units moved. Move units and you've moved the market, move critics without that market support and all you get is a critics circle jerk. The really big games which have moved units have all been multiplat so yes Sony has failed here thus far.
As for Valve, they make games for two platforms already. They have their main PC platform and their Xbox 360 side business. Should I now go and say how Sucker Punch, Insomniac, Kojima productions are lazy because they only target one platform instead of two? If you want to talk about how Valve took cheap shots at the PS3, fine but how long is the list of exclusive developers for the PS3 who have also talked smack? So they've looked at the architecture and decided that its not worth the trouble for them, so what? At least its better than developers who've never touched a 360 development kit saying 'only possible on the PS3'.
It doesn't matter if Xbox 360 games come to the PS3 a year later. The damage is already done if any damage was to be done and since you're a late adopter you're paying $60 when someone could get the same game on the 360 for half to a third of the price. Also those games have a habit of disappearing quickly and never dropping in price because they don't sell. Its paper support, the reality is very different. Those games like GTA IV, Assassins Creed etc were all tipped to be great games to help the PS3 defeat the Xbox 360. People remember those stupid statements and then the payback is reaped. Remember GTAIV is a 5M+ selling game on both platforms, of course people will remember its lost exclusivity as a crippling blow to the PS3, because it WAS.
Tease.
