I think we all know now what's the 'definitive' racing game of this gen

[waron]

there's so much fail in your response i don't know where to start, taz. but you're a sony fanboy so it was predictable.
1. how do you know there will be more than 400 cars? and no, 60 different versions of Skylines released between 2000 and 2002 doesn't count as different cars you know. i prefer less cars but, different models with full damage, rollovers, exterior, inferior and mechanical tunning and customisation than more cars that are pretty much copies of each other with little or no damage, no rollovers, no tunning etc. and no, changing colours of the cars is not customisation dude. again how do you know there will be more tracks? Forza 3 will have 100 let's wait and see how many GT will have.

2. Rally in GT is not a real rally races either so? those are only offroad tracks. same goes to nascar in GT5. nascar without 43 cars on circuit is not a nascar race.

3. Turn10 can add night races and weather effects as dlc later in the game.

4. lol about a Top Gear statement - dude, you're just pathetic. it just a track.

5. so Forza have terrible wheel support cause it support like 3 racing wheels less than ps3? Forza 3 have fanatecs wheels support that were build from the ground for this game, beat that. not to mention 360 support many wheels from every price point so everyone can buy a good racing wheel for reasonable price.

6. Forza 3 was prised as a first real racing sim on the consoles by almost everyone related to racing sim scene and uses Maclaren F1 Simulator assets(physics, handling whole tyre deformation part were taken almost straight from that simulator) - only F1 drivers are using that simulator as a training gear - it means a lot.

7. GT being arcade is lying? one thing boy, play pc racing sim so you will know the difference between real racing sim and arcadesim like PGR or GT series.