| ManusJustus said: The dragon is not a possibility, its just made it up. If something is made up, it is logical to reject it. It would be unreasonable for me, or anyone else, to think that the invisible dragon existed and make decisions based on the idea that the invisible dragon existed. For conciousness, you are just assuming that you need something more. Bacteria react to stimuli, worms react to stimuli, snails react to stimili, and humans react to stimili. The only difference is complexity and free will has absolutely nothing to do with it. Many animals that make decisions do not even have brains (starfish, clams, and worms) they just have a central nervous system that makes crude decisions, just like bacteria make crude decisions based on the chemical reactions of a few protiens. Our central nervous system happens to be much more complex, which makes us considerably different but does not require a supernatural explanation. |
So basically, If I make up something you'll just out right reject it. What about if years later it just happens that what I made up is actually true? (proven by science of course) Then what would you do? If you'd retake it as true because of science, then why did you reject it in the first place? See where I'm going? You can't reject something just because you 'think' it's made up.. it might turn out not to be made up. I do agree to a certain degree with being reasonable, but out of sake of logic, I just can't conform.
And how do you know that animals have free will or not? You don't. But what about you? Aren't you human? do you not think you have free will?
@Final
"[edited to comply with you backing down from the "proof" claim]"
Yes, for the free will & experience part (that it can't be action reaction), because It seems too complex to try and explain feelings when we don't experience the same things.. or did I change my position on something else?
