| Wind Shlavitor said: Manus, The dragon as well as the god, are both possibilities if you can't prove them wrong. Sure, it'd be pretty weird if it the magical dragon was there ... I'd be surprized for one, but you can't rule them out, because that's Illogical. You can add probabilities though, which is hard to determine, but I do think (yes think, you don't have the choice to not have an opinion when judging something uncertain) that the dragon is less likely than god. Why criteria? It sounds like just judging and making assumptions, which we already do.. we don't need to rule something out when it's still a possibility; you just don't have to deal with it if you don't think it's likely and don't want to.
As for the snail. It doesn't really matter because we don't know if the snail has conciousness or not, regardless of if it's more complex than a computer or not. And actually that was my point, computer AI is not just inferior to animals and humans, but you can't replicate conciousness,experience, and free will, no matter how many thousands of years you'd stay there programming it. I'm saying interpretation and experience are not comparable, and it's impossible for something to experience based on cause & effect (action reaction), you need something more. |
The dragon is not a possibility, its just made it up. If something is made up, it is logical to reject it. It would be unreasonable for me, or anyone else, to think that the invisible dragon existed and make decisions based on the idea that the invisible dragon existed.
For conciousness, you are just assuming that you need something more. Bacteria react to stimuli, worms react to stimuli, snails react to stimili, and humans react to stimili. The only difference is complexity and free will has absolutely nothing to do with it. Many animals that make decisions do not even have brains (starfish, clams, and worms) they just have a central nervous system that makes crude decisions, just like bacteria make crude decisions based on the chemical reactions of a few protiens. Our central nervous system happens to be much more complex, which makes us considerably different but does not require a supernatural explanation.
