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Avinash_Tyagi said:
HappySqurriel said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
HappySqurriel said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

So its more expennsvie at the moment, so what? It's cleaner and it'll get cheaper with more advances in tech, plus we can couple it with the other options I mentioned


Wind isn't much more cost effective, and hydro-electric dams are about as popular as nuclear powerplants and are much more limited in the number of places that they can be installed ...

 


Ok, but you still haven't disputed the point, these methods are cleaner than fossil fuels and nuclear power and will be able to cover our energy needs, and costs can be addressed through technological innovations.

"Cleaner" is debateable because of the massive environmental footprints of all of those technologies (which is why most of these powerplants have a similar fight to nuclear and coal powerplants); and (as it has already been pointed out) until Solar gets to being about 10% of its current price, and wind gets to being about 20% of its current price, the cost of the energy used in the average home is far beyond what the typical household can afford.

Actually increasing prices on energy isn't always a bad thing, see by increasing prices you force people to conserve, only use power on the very essentials. It becomes a kind of excise tax and forces people to change their habits.

As for footprints, offshore wind farms create a much smaller footrpint, and since they can be taller in the open seas, they can be more efficient than the onshore ones

Why not save the hundreds of billions of dollars by using coal/oil/nuclear, and use the extra funds for research, rather than use all the money to pour into inefficient poor technology?

Because the coal oil and nuclear produce a lot more pollution, and if the climate change supporters are right, it'll just screw over the future.

Moderately higher energy prices (like a $200 electric bill) will make people conserve energy ... Dramatically higher energy prices (like the $2,000 electric bill associated with Solar power) will make people choose between driving to work, heating their homes or eating.

Now, consider what if the global warming supporters are wrong? What makes you think that the same organizations who blamed global cooling on evil fossil fuels in the 1960s, then started blaiming global warming on the evil fossil fuel companies in the 1980s, and now blame climate change on those evil fossil fuel companies, are not just taking natural changes in the climate using fossil fuels as a scapegoat inorder to enact their political ideologies? While you're thinking this over consider Canada, a country with 150% the land mass of Europe and has 5% the population and (in most ways) is the picture of sustainable development, is the "Evilest" country in the world to most environmental organizations while Russia and China (where most of the worlds worst environmental disasters are currently happening) are let off the hook.