If the rumors are true, Sony will comeback

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dcIKeeL said:

Squilliam said:

dcIKeeL said:
@infamous8

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20080507132302_Microsoft_Gears_Up_to_Release_Xbox_360_with_New_Chips.html

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20090617143512_Microsoft_Quietly_Starts_to_Ship_Updated_Xbox_360_Arcade.html

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/22/nanometer-wars-heat-up-toshiba-and-intel-enter-unofficial-race/

http://kotaku.com/331959/xbox-360-could-get-32nm-chips-by-late-2009

The 360 slim is on it's way. Rest assured. The valhalla motherboard is probably it, as it will reportedly combine both chips into one 32nm-45nm chip. The arcade has already received the upgrades neccesary for another slash in prices.

Those links are contradictions. One says that the chips will be produced by TSMC, which means 40nm at best for this year, which I must add is having yield issues. The other, producing with IBM when they likely won't be ramping up to full production @ 32nm until the start of next year which is definately not in time for consoles produced this year.

You're missing the point. Everyone is making smaller chips. IBM was originally first but Intel has decided to skip 45nm altogether and go straight to 32nm. Therefore, toshiba has joined IBM and friends to develop 28nm chips. IBM has had working 45nm chips available for about a year. Yet, there has been no word of a slim 360. I think this proves that MS is looking to make their slim model with 32nm chips...maybe slightly smaller (my bet is on 32nm). They also are hinting that theyre gonna combine both chips into one, less heat, less energy, less manufacturing cost, even smaller size.

More importantly, I never said the 360 slim was coming out this year. 360 price cuts are coming this year but the slim is going to come as a strategic slap in the face sometime in mid 2010. Perhaps MS will even make the slim coincide with Natal. Infamous8 was claiming that MS isn't going for a true slim because they already have their 'slim' with the arcade. However the arcade has received modifications that make it even cheaper to manufacturer (if only a bit) so the arcade itself has been 'slimmed' down and will see price cuts. MS true slim model is still on it's way. Sony I'm pretty sure is releasing their ps3 slim this fall. Investors think of these rumors as more than just rumors as of now since they are willing to invest on it. It will be 120gb slim ps3.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/146289-why-sony-s-ps3-will-continue-to-struggle?source=yahoo

1) Intel was first to 45nm by a long ways. Penyrn was out at the begining of 2008. Last I heard 22nm was planned for 2011, but it remains to be seen if they are going to be able to do that without going backrupt. Fixed investment costs for new fabs went through the roof with 45nm and at some point the manufacturers left are going to have to rest just to recoup the costs.

2) The orginal 360 is probably about the size of what the ps3 slim will be.