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HappySqurriel on 02 July 2009
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Sardauk said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Sardauk said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Even though Sardauk is flamebaiting all over the place, I still find it refreshing for some reason. Whether you believe in Global Warming or not, you have to agree that rampant releases of carbon dioxide and pollutants aren't going to do any good for the earth. If fear of Global Warming results in a cleaner earth, I couldn't give less of a shit whether any of it was true or not.

I'm flaming for my own personnal mental health.... I can't believe they are still deploying more energy to protect an old-fashion way of life rather than start improving their mentality...

USA should already have done something like 15 years ago... and we are still arguing on this !

The problem is if all we are doing is releasing .0001% of the CO2 that it takes to actually effect global warming, then what we are doing today is going to do more harm to people then less. Most of that harm, is going to happen to the poor.

Are you for sacrificing the poor to make a change that might not be needed for 500 years? Or, might not ever be needed.

At some point, through science, we are going to come up with a better source for energy then coal and gas. It might be 10 years down the road, it might be 200. If that time was going to come before we got to the point where releasing CO2 has any impact, then doing something to stop it now is not only pointless, but far worse then doing nothing at all.

 

Nuclear cold fusion ? In 10 it might be too late, in 200 we won't be there anymore..

No it won't, not like that. Money and investment go were the economy requires them to go. Fossil fuels are still to cheap to really motivate the economy to do something about, without constraints of taxes and climate change.

Back in the seventies, during the first petrol crisis, governements (US included) had started some initatives to become less dependent of oil.

Those initative were ruined by the decision of the producing countries to severly lower their price so that the world economy would be addicted to it....

Now we are talking about the return of coal... this is madness...

And I don't believe any second that we are only responsible for .0000001% of the total emission... come on...

 

 

Between 2000 and 2007 the oil and natural gas companies in the united states invested more than any other organization (over $100 Billion) on emerging energy technologies. What makes you think that the oil companies are trying to keep you "addicted" to oil, when they are the group that is spending the most money trying to develop alternative energy sources?

Most projections for our energy use make-up in 2030 has fossil fuels representing between 65% and 85% of total energy use because of how far alternative energy will have developed over the past 30 years since the energy crisis ... What makes you think that anyone had any ability to get "off of" oil in the 1980s when optimistic projections for the next 20 years have twice as much energy comming from fossil fuels than all other sources combined?