yo_john117 said:
perpride said:
yo_john117 said:
perpride said:
yo_john117 said:
perpride said:
yo_john117 said:
perpride said:
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Microsoft backed HD-DVD because they thought HD-DVD would win the format war. Saying anything other than that is a freaking joke.
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No if that was the case they would have had an HD-DVD drive in every 360 made, They only supported it to hinder BR so they had more time to push their download based services.
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My friend your OP, as well as your response to me, is completely based on speculation. You are defending a dead format so it doesn't seem like MS screwed up. Companies fuck up all the time, backing HD DVD was a fuck up on MS' part. They thought it would succeed and take Blu Ray out. There is absolutley no way they would invest millions of dollars simply to hinder BR. They only started this whole digital distribution BS after Blu Ray destroyed their supported format. Even if an official from MS said what you are arguing (which they probably never will) I wouldn't believe it because it simply makes no logical sense.
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Then tell me if they were supporting it so much why didn't they put the HD-DVD drive into at least one of their SKU's. They weren't supporting it as much as you say. MS is way smarter than you think they are...
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They didn't put it in their SKU's because the console would cost too much. Plain and simple. Not everybody who buys a 360 is looking for a media center, so MS quite smartly decided not to add HD DVD built in with the console. Like you said, they are extremely smart. But this doesn't mean that they can't make mistakes. There is no way a company spends millions of dollars towards something they know is going to fail in the end.
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Ok if they actually would have supported it they would have put it into at least one sku. you can't say they were backing it up alot if they didn't even put it into one sku...and were are these sources for the millions that they spent it on it. I don't think they put really too much money into HD-DVD at all. And one more thing...to MS millions is chump change, if they were serious about it they would of spent billions like they did with the Xbox, or at least close to half a billion.
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My friend at this point this argument is over. I can say they were backing it up and spent million on it without showing you a single link. How? It cost them millions (unless you disagree) just to create the external player for 360. And yes, millions is nothing to Microsoft, much like the money Sony has spent on Blu Ray was at that point probably nothing to them. Like I said, MS did not include it in their SKU's because it would make the console much more expensive. They are a smart company and have marketed the 360 as a gaming machine first.
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You believe what you want to believe cause i don't think they really cared if HD-DVD died or not.
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both are right and wrong..
microsoft cared for the "IHD" control scheme software stack than the HD DVD format itself. Since only Toshiba produced HD DVD optical drive's Microsoft must have known it's chances to make it were not that great. Though the "IHD" software stack had no such limitation only if the SOFTWARE would have been the choice over JAVA for the BDA to use in the Blu-ray player's instead of JAVA. that was the real reason for Microsoft somewhat supporting HD DVD over Blu-Ray.
Microsoft was in many talk's with the optical drive manuf. of Blu-Ray in hope's that they use IHD over JAVA if that was the case there prob. of never been a HD video format war between Blu-Ray and HD DVD in the first place and most likely Microsoft would have offered a Blu-Ray external add on instead of a HD DVD one.
By chooseing HD DVD Microsoft would have hoped that the industry would have taken the IHD control software as the more mature control software over JAVA for Blu-Ray player's thus gaining a more stake in Optical drive sales over the industry. IHD was little investment , and for Format's HD DVD or Blu-Ray would have been a great choice.
Microsoft hoped it could gather enough support into HD DVD to put doubt into the viability of Blu-Ray as a format..and for the most part that's exactly what Microsoft did..but on the same token Microsoft knows that Blu-Ray will not be going anywhere because the new version's of windows Operating system support the driver's for Blu-Ray optical drives. and Since near to all of the largest optical drive manuf. all make Blu-Ray Optical drives Blu-Ray is already a standard, but Microsoft did make sure Blu-Ray's adoption would indeed be slower than it would have been.
