| mrstickball said: The Sun is More Active Now than Over the Last 8000 Years
An international team of scientists has reconstructed the Sun's activity over the last 11 millennia and forecasts decreased activity within a few decades The activity of the Sun over the last 11,400 years, i.e., back to the end of the last ice age on Earth, has now for the first time been reconstructed quantitatively by an international group of researchers led by Sami K. Solanki from the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research (Katlenburg-Lindau, Germany). The scientists have analyzed the radioactive isotopes in trees that lived thousands of years ago. As the scientists from Germany, Finland, and Switzerland report in the current issue of the science journal "Nature" from October 28, one needs to go back over 8,000 years in order to find a time when the Sun was, on average, as active as in the last 60 years. Based on a statistical study of earlier periods of increased solar activity, the researchers predict that the current level of high solar activity will probably continue only for a few more decades.
Fig. 1: A large sunspot observed on the Sun in early September 2004. The field of view encompasses around 45,000 by 30,000 km of the Sun’s surface - the entire earth would fit into the area several times over. Sunspots appear dark because the strong magnetic field in the them suppresses the transport of energy through gas flow. In the central dark area of the sunspot (umbra) the magnetic field is perpendicular to the surface, whereas in the lighter coloured periphery (penumbra) the magnetic field is largely horizontal to the surface. The image was captured by Vasily Zakharov with a one-meter solar telescope on the island of La Palma. The telescope is operated by the Institute for Solar Physics of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. Image: Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research The research team had already in 2003 found evidence that the Sun is more active now than in the previous 1000 years. A new data set has allowed them to extend the length of the studied period of time to 11,400 years, so that the whole length of time since the last ice age could be covered. This study showed that the current episode of high solar activity since about the year 1940 is unique within the last 8000 years. This means that the Sun has produced more sunspots, but also more flares and eruptions, which eject huge gas clouds into space, than in the past. The origin and energy source of all these phenomena is the Sun's magnetic field. Fig. 2: Top: Reconstructed sunspot activity (10 year average) for the last 11,400 years based on C-14 data (blue curve) and the directly observed historical sunspot data since 1610 (red curve). The reliable C-14 data ends around the year 1900 so that the sharp increase in sunspot activity in the 20th century does not appear in the graph. The reconstruction shows clearly that a comparable period of high sunspot activity previously existed over 8000 years ago. Below: An enlarged section of the upper graph (hatched area) with several episodes of higher sun activity; comparable to the 20th century. Image: Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research Because the brightness of the Sun varies slightly with solar activity, the new reconstruction indicates also that the Sun shines somewhat brighter today than in the 8,000 years before. Whether this effect could have provided a significant contribution to the global warming of the Earth during the last century is an open question. The researchers around Sami K. Solanki stress the fact that solar activity has remained on a roughly constant (high) level since about 1980 - apart from the variations due to the 11-year cycle - while the global temperature has experienced a strong further increase during that time. On the other hand, the rather similar trends of solar activity and terrestrial temperature during the last centuries (with the notable exception of the last 20 years) indicates that the relation between the Sun and climate remains a challenge for further research.
You want to refute this, Akuma? I will accept your chart if you accept mine.
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I'll never criticize good experiments and data. And this looks pretty sound. But conclusive? That's too soon to say. And extrapolating things like this in the past can be a difficult thing to do and typically requires several different indicators to demonstrate that the predicted data is accurate.
So, yes, this calls the hypothesis behind global warming proposed by the majority of scientists into question. But does it disprove that hypothesis? No, not until this one is subject to more peer review. There is no such thing as a perfect scientific model. Almost all scientific models that have ever predicted anything with reliability have been revised significantly, often multiple times. So claiming one article disproves a hypothesis is a very premature thing to do in the scientific world.
Like I said, if global warming is a big scam, then we all benefit. I don't personally benefit if man-made global warming is a reality. But we all lose if it is. As of now, we should still be thinking in terms of dealing with the worst case scenario.
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