How would you feel if someone gave Killzone2 a 7 without seeing multiplayer

[Onyxmeth]

psrock said:

Onyxmeth said:

psrock said:

One question, who do you blame for the wii lack of graphical power?

While on a daily basis we hear about Sony being blamed for 360 third party games looking better since they make it hard to develop for, just this week someone make thread on how Nintendo consoles are more reliable than xbox360 and Ps3, but the Minute someone brings up the Wii's weakness, a meltdown takes place.

Nitendo decided not to make a powerful console which will never looked as good as the competition, they shift their focus on motion control which payed off greatly, but when developers try to bring FPS to it, which the competition  has tons of amazing versions to begin with, it will be imposible to live up to the hype. And, i blame Nintendo for it. And yes, people will bring up the control, and one of the important aspect of a game too, but it's not all there is to a game since all games if worked on properly can have great control too.

Well I believe the problem stems that we have five platforms of differing quality in graphics, and each is supposed to be judged on it's own merits. If we were to review a DS or PSP game, do we knock off points because the games do not look like 360/PS3 games, or do we judge them based on other games on the same platform? I would do the latter. Your argument points to you doing the former.

The reason the PS3 gets knocked for it's difficult to program for structure is because it shares 90% of it's games with the 360. If it didn't, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

You're comparing a hypothetical multiplatform 360/PS3 effort with an exclusive Wii title. There is the difference.

@Zen-I'm fairly sure reviewers didn't play Smash Bros. online actually. That's how it got such good reviews.

You see it as a problem, i see it as a choice. Sony made the choice to make the PS3 expensive and difficult, Nintendo decided not to make the wii as powerful as the other two. I am not going to ignore these choices when games are affected by them. We are talking about FPS here, we are talking about developers who talked day and night about how good the Conduit look. I hated the review, but the part people keep making a big deal about really is Nintendo's own doing.

Well I see it two ways. I see it your way a bit because it was Nintendo's decision to make a Gamecube+ kind of console with the Wii. However, there's a time and place to vent those frustrations, and I feel if a game review is one of them, it should be reserved for a multiplatform game. Want to take a swipe at Wii graphics? Do it in Shawn White Snowboarding, or Tiger Woods, or Madden. Just not the exclusive Wii title. An exclusive Wii title has no comparable HD counterpart. It is only hypothetically better on an HD console since it doesn't exist.

The real issue comes with whether you take this review as a singular offense or as an offense in ideology. Zen is obviously taking this situation ideological as opposed to a singular offense. He's not necessarily wrong though. Would it be right to award all Wii games a 5/10 in graphics because not a single one can come close to Killzone 2? How about PSP? Maybe all games should be capped at 4/10 in graphics? What about DS? Should every game have a 2/10 cap for graphics because all HD titles look monumentously better technically? Even the HD consoles? Should they be capped at 8/10 because the PC can produce Crysis and no console has as of yet? I just don't like the idea of cross platform comparisons in reviews unless 1. It's highly relevant to the review at hand, or 2. it's a multiplatform game. It's not a big deal since it's one offense, but if each game had to be reviewed to it's best potential version on the best potential console, reviews as a whole would just begin to get screwy.

A review is supposed to be a lengthy suggestion to buy a product or a warning not to. So comparing the Conduit to the hypothetical Conduit that could have been on an HD console is not beneficial to the potential purchaser, because that game doesn't exist. It isn't an option to purchase an HD Conduit, thus who gives a shit to mention it? Similiar to how mentioning a lack or keyboard/mouse support or IR pointing support in Killzone 2 is a ridiculous thing to bring up since Killzone 2 is not on the Wii or PC. A reader gets nothing beneficial out of that section of the review.