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selnor on 24 June 2009
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WereKitten said:
selnor said:

If it's 1/10th of a BluRay, wheres the picture difference? Because Ive watched 4 Blu Raye now and they were no better than this. ( Well to the naked eye anyway. )

You really believe Blu Ray rental will come down? You think Blu Ray will get even half the amount of sales that DVD has gotten over the years? 80% of my friends have no intention to ever buy Blu Ray. They all own DVD players. Cost is the word, and they cannot be arsed to rebuy the same films. Price will always be to high for Blu Ray becasue adoption will be nowhere near DVD. Thats the problem for any new media interface.

Streaming is like owning in a way. You could watch the film here in UK 17 times on streaming ( £17 ) and it would still be less expensive than buying Blu Ray disc. Some Blu Ray films here are £26.99!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My point is more than valid. I brought Rentals in as well as it's important to show how badly the BluRay medium is priced in general. And is exactly why I predict by 2012 that Blu Ray will be a very declining format, that never really took off.

DVD will be the last format to be adopt massively. Whether everyone likes it or not, the same was said of music downloads and streaming. Movies are most definately being adopted at a fast rate the same way. 360 has been playing a big roll in this to.

I think you quoted the wrong post there, and I assume this was addressed to me (the 1/10th number is my hint)

Anyway, I know many people who say that upscaled DVDs are good enough for them, and 4Mb per second is still a good bandwidth in scenes with no fast pans over very finely detailed scenery. I can easily see the difference between upscaled DVDs and BluRays, and I'm sure I'd be disturbed by quantization artifacts in fast scenes in the movies I love if I stuck to low bandwidth HD streaming, but I do agree that for many uses it's just good enough.

Of course BluRay rental will come down in price. As players become cheaper in price more people will buy a BluRay player as a painless update of their DVD player to compliment their new HD tv - on which non-upscaled DVDs won't look that good. You seem to keep glancing on the fact that it will happily play back all their old DVDs.

As for the pricing of BD films, it's not actually that bad, it siimply lacks the budget tier for the time being. A new movie out on DVD is about €19 here, with the extended/special edition at about €22-24 and the BD version (that always mirrors the extended edition when it comes to content) at about €25-27. If you're interested into the extended edition, it's a few bucks well spent.

I'm sure that digital distribution will become increasingly important as time goes by. It's just not nearly good enough right now for me and many like me, whereas BluRay is.

Although you say many, I'd say for 80% of people out there DVD is still good enough. And because people aren't adopting it like they did DVD, the price just isn't coming down. By the way your prices are different. New DVD films here come out between £9.99 - £12.99 normally. Blu Ray can be anywhere between £17.99 - £29.99 for a normal film. But the worst part is Hard Rain new on DVD is like £2.99. On Blu Ray it's £21.99. That's a massive issue.

I accept there is people who like the Blu Ray in their hand and love the HD thing. But by the time Live has implemented this, many people wont bother with Blu Ray and the price will not get a chance to hardly drop due to non adoption. Even now the Blu Ray section in HMV is about 10% of the size of DVD section. It's literally one row at my local. And Plymouth is now classed as major city with over 300,000 living here.