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Sardauk on 24 June 2009
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Scoobes said:
Sardauk said:
kowenicki said:
I think they are both a sing of opression and of the faith.... as, in my opinion, islam opresses women.

Catholics also, but women fought back to gain some autonomy and recognition over the last decades.

 

I don't believe that burqa is a sign of faith in any f*cking way ! It is pure oppression to me and true moderate Islam has nothing to do with that.

 

I don't believe neither in women testimonies saying that they are ok with burqa.... .. they are either brainwashed or fear acts of revenge from their entourage.

Nobody can emancipate with that kind of restrictions...

My understanding of Islam is that the Qu'ran only states that women should only cover there hair and shoulders. Most of the other interpretations are actually cultural and not religious. However, a lot of people see them as one and the same and can't distinguish between the 2.

We have to go back a long way to find the orginal reasons for a lot of the rules in all religions and a lot of the them seem to be forgotten. Yet many still follow the rules without understanding. In this case however, I think the restrictions are actually cultural, but people are just as willing to accept them due to tradition.

Please note that I haven't actually read the Qu'ran, and the info above comes only from what I've learnt from muslim friends and courses on understanding different religions.

Yes you are right but I take the problem from the other side : In our modern society, I believe that the public sphere has to remain open.

Here in Belgium, we have quite a lot of young muslims from the first or second generation born in the country (parents are grand-parents are immigrants).

I see that they are really willing to abandon what they consider a family pressure about tradition/religion... when it fails, it is always because somebody else forced them too... especially the women ! And that is totally unacceptable.

IMO it is also binded to an improvement of their social condition. So when women are forced to live under those "strict traditions", it prevent them from reaching a higher social status.

 

In the end, it is not about faith or anything, it is about putting back religion out of the political and legal aspects of the society.



 

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