ManusJustus said:
Oh, yes you do pay for health insurance. The benefits you get with your job are part of your income. Lets say you make $100,000 a year and recieve $30,000 in benefits. In reality you make $130,000. That $30,000 goes into your healthcare, and the amount your company pays for healthcare is dependent on how much health insurance costs. You believe in the free market, dont you? Well, the free market decides how much you should make. In the above example the value of your employment is $130,000, with $100,000 in money and $30,000 in benefits. If your company dropped benefits and only gave money to its employees, then the free market would put the value of your paycheck at $130,000. Again, you are only arguing for how you should pay for other people's healthcare. |
Yeah, it is part of your income whether or not you consider it to be. The reason why employers started offering healthcare in the first place was because of the salary caps imposed during WW2. This is another reason why it makes no sense that healthcare benefits are tax exempt when at the end of the day they are part of your income.
And I'm amazed how so many of you know so much about this health plan when Congress hasn't even decided what it is going to be yet. I guess you guys can travel to the future or something.
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